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Blacksword
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Topic: The Economy Posted: August 26 2010 at 07:35 |
Economics is all about smoke and mirrors. Different economists have a different idea about what economic collapse actully entails.
Some would say for example, that someone who is £2000 overdrawn at the bank, is 'broke' If that person has an agreed overdraft limit for that amount, and doesn't exceed it, then arguably they are not broke, although they dont technically speaking have any money. For some, being in the red is wholly unnaceptable. It depends where your start point is and how you define wealth and poverty.
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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JJLehto
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Posted: August 25 2010 at 13:40 |
That silly Dustin....with his over the top comments Will people still get offended though knowing his purpose? I assume yes And really, the economy will never recover, ever. Doom & Gloom
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thellama73
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Posted: August 25 2010 at 13:37 |
Alitare wrote:
When's the last time an African American was hanged from the old oak tree in your front yard, just for speaking his mind?
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crimhead
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Posted: August 25 2010 at 13:34 |
Buy Gold!!
All the talking heads are telling you so.
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JJLehto
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Posted: August 25 2010 at 12:18 |
Economy, yeah Times? nah
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Alitare
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Posted: August 25 2010 at 12:17 |
Is the economy even that bad? Are times even that bad? Why does everyone seem to think life is so damn bad, these days, and it's only getting worse?
When's the last time an African American was hanged from the old oak tree in your front yard, just for speaking his mind?
Aren't microwaves convenient?
I sure am glad I don't have smallpox!
I'm not saying it was bad, now it's good. I'm just saying that, socially, you'd think folks would see the changes. But, you know, folks are goddamn ignorant, huh?
Oh, and the economy? I could care less. homelessness is fantastic!
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JJLehto
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Posted: August 25 2010 at 12:02 |
rpe9p wrote:
haha wow I cant believe this poll is tied, of course the economy will recover, are you people joking or trying to make some kind of statement by saying that it wont? |
lil bit of both
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rpe9p
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Posted: August 25 2010 at 11:45 |
haha wow I cant believe this poll is tied, of course the economy will recover, are you people joking or trying to make some kind of statement by saying that it wont?
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omri
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Posted: August 25 2010 at 11:32 |
I voted yes. Simply cause while population is still growing more food will be needed. then some will get richer, spend more money and others will be pushed to the circle and so on. The problem is that we are too many already so this wil have to end sometimes (either hunger or disease. only these 2 can kill enough people. War failed to do that).
I am thinking lately of which economy is needed to support life without population growth (our existing economy is based on growth). I don't know the answer but we will have to find it cause in the long term that is the only way we can survive.
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omri
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GY!BE
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Location: Montreal
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Posted: August 25 2010 at 10:56 |
It would never be recovered and it never was in prosperity because until big corporations are running our countries we will still be corporate slaves to the big wall street''s bankers.
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JJLehto
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Posted: August 24 2010 at 17:57 |
Nuclear War. Not ALL life will die, and maybe a few humans will make it. We can start over from scratch and do things right.
Unless we dont make it...then in a million years nature can rule the world again.
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Slartibartfast
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Joined: April 29 2006
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Posted: August 24 2010 at 17:51 |
JJLehto wrote:
The T wrote:
Mass suicide man, we need it. But a really massive one.... Either that or a prescription of opiates for everybody to be able to ride the neverending storm.... |
Only if its good opiates....not religion like Marx said.
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Interesting point sort of. We've been offing ourselves in wars and with disease in mass quantities and it seems to have worked in the past. When the aliens come and attack us with their advanced weaponry and diseases then our economy will improve.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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JJLehto
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Posted: August 24 2010 at 17:17 |
The T wrote:
Mass suicide man, we need it. But a really massive one.... Either that or a prescription of opiates for everybody to be able to ride the neverending storm.... |
Only if its good opiates....not religion like Marx said.
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The T
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Posted: August 24 2010 at 17:12 |
Mass suicide man, we need it. But a really massive one.... Either that or a prescription of opiates for everybody to be able to ride the neverending storm....
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thellama73
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Posted: August 24 2010 at 08:33 |
There is no timeline in the poll. so I am forced to vote yes. It will eventually recorver, but as I said in the Libertarian thread, I don't think it will happen until Obama leaves office.
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JJLehto
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Posted: August 23 2010 at 02:05 |
Never said I subscribe, just want
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Sacred 22
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Posted: August 23 2010 at 01:58 |
JJLehto wrote:
Well, cant disagree about eliminating the middle class Im hoping the world will end in 2012 and we just wont have to deal with this stuff anymore!
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I don't subscribe to the 2012 thing. It's just another rouse that the controllers use to keep people guessing. While the controllers are doing their dirty work they like to keep us guessing or distracted with sports etc etc. Old techniques, that with the invention of television really turned the science of controlling people into the science of controlling the masses. Relegion was used for that in the past, but now with electronics and communications they got us hook line and sinker and with virtually the same indoctrination system. Look at everyone today, they are strapped to their laptops, their i-pods, and i-phones. It's a shame really.
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Sacred 22
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Posted: August 23 2010 at 01:46 |
JJLehto wrote:
Well, cant disagree about eliminating the middle class Im hoping the world will end in 2012 and we just wont have to deal with this stuff anymore!
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JJLehto
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Posted: August 23 2010 at 01:42 |
Well, cant disagree about eliminating the middle class Im hoping the world will end in 2012 and we just wont have to deal with this stuff anymore!
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Sacred 22
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Posted: August 23 2010 at 01:40 |
We are headed for the 'high tech feudal system' by design and to accomplish this, the middle class must be eliminated. This has been pretty much accomplished by the money controllers through the creation of debt and inflation of which we all got sucked into. The only way to change this would be to scrap the debt, tear up the trade agreements, and create a monied system backed up with solid wealth. Of course that's not going to happen save for a natural disaster that puts us virtually back to the stone age. The people in control are it seems going to have their way with us and create their utopia with a sub class of slaves (those of us left) beneath them. Right now we are going through the transformation stage which is going to be quite chaotic over the next 20 or 30 years. More and more people will lose their source of income and more and more will become dependant on the state. When the chaos and the turmoil becomes impossible to deal with the purpetrators of the crime will come forward with a solution that most people will beg for for. All you have to do is go back in to history and you will discover that this has happened before but not on as large of a scale. Those that don't know history are always doomed to repeat it, therefore the more things change, the more things stay the same. The group Kansas got it right in the song 'Sparks Of The Tempest' off of the album 'Point Of Know Return'. Just read the words for yourself.
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