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    Posted: June 06 2005 at 11:52

on the paper, it is written "Rainbow in Curved air"..."poppy nogood and the phantom band" has similarities with previous works in the "Organ of Cortis"



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2005 at 11:01
Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

Terry Riley's A Rainbow In Curved Air was massively influential on prog - do a search and you'll find some very informative posts by Dick Heath on this topic, with a few rather facetious ones from me. There's a great version of In C by New York percussion ensemble Bang On A Can, who also did a great re interpretation of Music For Airports.

Of approximately the same vintage as Terry Riley is Steve Reich, whose work is a lot more engaging than titles like Music for 18 Musicians might suggest. He did an interesting collaboration with Pat Metheney, Different Trains.

Probably the most famous composer in this style is Philip Glass - the best place to start is probably his soundtrack to Koyaanisqaatsi. He's also recorded symphonic treatments of Bowie's Low and Heroes albums, which are a lot better than most rock/classical crossovers

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you took almost every word out of my mouth regarding minimalism. A Rainbow In Curved Air is definitely tops in influences.

As for Glass, his Powaqaatsi is equally fine album and do is those two films. I have a real problem dissociating the music from the films though.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2005 at 09:14

Terry Riley's A Rainbow In Curved Air was massively influential on prog - do a search and you'll find some very informative posts by Dick Heath on this topic, with a few rather facetious ones from me. There's a great version of In C by New York percussion ensemble Bang On A Can, who also did a great re interpretation of Music For Airports.

Of approximately the same vintage as Terry Riley is Steve Reich, whose work is a lot more engaging than titles like Music for 18 Musicians might suggest. He did an interesting collaboration with Pat Metheney, Different Trains.

Probably the most famous composer in this style is Philip Glass - the best place to start is probably his soundtrack to Koyaanisqaatsi. He's also recorded symphonic treatments of Bowie's Low and Heroes albums, which are a lot better than most rock/classical crossovers

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2005 at 08:53

Originally posted by Man Erg Man Erg wrote:

I have a few versions of Terry Riley's In C, including a collaborative effort with Brian Eno.The original version is the best IMHO.
Also;his (Riley) collaboration with John Cale on Church of Anthrax is well worth a listen.

Church of Anthrax is very disconcerted and regrettable...for me this is a joke!!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2005 at 08:48

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

also look for Luigi Nono and Penderecki

Christine GROULT's tribute to Nono is absolutely fascinating!! maybe better than Nono himself

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2005 at 07:57
I have a few versions of Terry Riley's In C, including a collaborative effort with Brian Eno.The original version is the best IMHO.
Also;his (Riley) collaboration with John Cale on Church of Anthrax is well worth a listen.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2005 at 07:53
also look for Luigi Nono and Penderecki


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2005 at 07:38

Noit necessarily for minimalism but also check out:

Pierre Henry

Lasry's La Structures Sonore

Milton Subotnik

Wendy Carlos (specifically Sonic Seasonings)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2005 at 07:32

 in fact nothing to do with minimalism...Boulez music just sounds horrible to my ears. Among electro acoustic and "musique concrete" composers I have admiration for Luc Ferrari and all artists who collaborate to the GRM.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2005 at 07:26
And Stockhausen, of course.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2005 at 07:25
Not to forget Pierre Boulez. Not a minimalist but certainly quite experimental music.


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Gilbert Rouget, Jean Rouch, Manfred Kelkel... can reach you into meta-music

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2005 at 05:24
Musicology is not the best way to study this music...choose ethnomusicology, it's by far better

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2005 at 05:20
Originally posted by Joren Joren wrote:

On topic: I believe I have heard "In C" once, but I don't remember very well if I liked it or not... I will listen to it again some time. I am currently busy exploring the work of his minimal music colleagues Steve Reich and Philip Glass.

By the way, I was told in class (I study Musicolog), that Terry Riley's "In C" was at the time of its release very provocative, because, back then, you were supposed to compose atonal or serial music if you wanted to be taken seriously as a composer.

Harry Parth was one of the first to explore post modernism, minimalism western music, rejecting "dodecaphonism"...also Morton Feldman (known for his collaboration with John Cage). Riley came a few years later.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2005 at 05:06

Originally posted by JrKASperov JrKASperov wrote:

I was thinking of Pioneers in C, 

Me too!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2005 at 05:02

 

Yes, go on the previous recommendations...Contrary to what have been said, IN C is absolutely not the best Terry Riley effort despite that it is very inovative (the way of composing)...check his "Organ of cortis" serie, just mesmerizing...also take an interest for radical minimalist (idian raga sound like with endless repetitive patterns ) drone music (La monte Young for the old generation, Ian Nagoski for the young one)

you can have more informations about minimalism and avant garde music on my personnal page in prog archives or on my forum



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2005 at 17:08
Some of Laurie Anderson's stuff also.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2005 at 16:57

On topic: I believe I have heard "In C" once, but I don't remember very well if I liked it or not... I will listen to it again some time. I am currently busy exploring the work of his minimal music colleagues Steve Reich and Philip Glass.

By the way, I was told in class (I study Musicolog), that Terry Riley's "In C" was at the time of its release very provocative, because, back then, you were supposed to compose atonal or serial music if you wanted to be taken seriously as a composer.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2005 at 16:57

Originally posted by JrKASperov JrKASperov wrote:

I was thinking of Pioneers in C, but that's probably something else 

d'oh!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2005 at 16:22

Originally posted by JrKASperov JrKASperov wrote:

I was thinking of Pioneers in C, but that's probably something else 

You probably meant "Pioneers Over c" by Van der Graaf Generator. A song about people who pass "c", the speed of light.



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