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Darklord55 
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 Topic: How Too Make the Modern World Like Prog
Posted: July 14 2010 at 21:10 |
Progressive rock fans are chosen or elected by a higher power. Any attempt to evangelize those who aren't proggers is a waste of time which could be used listening or buying our beloved music. 
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: July 07 2010 at 06:01 |
Give it a Progo-Cola and make it sing in perfect harmony.  (you'll be excused for not getting that joke if aren't one of us old farts)
Edited by Slartibartfast - July 07 2010 at 06:02
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Synchestra
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Posted: July 07 2010 at 04:59 |
 richardh wrote:
chopper wrote:
The Wrinkler wrote:
Rock Band: Progressive Rock
I would have to go out and buy the game if they ever had one. 
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Great idea. Let's have "Gates of Delirium" on Guitar Hero. That would really do your head in.
Actually "Owner of a Lonely Heart" would be good. |
I think you can already find things like YYZ and Lateralus on there (or certainly one of the other popular computer rock band games).
I have had fun making my nephew play drums on Hotel California getting comments like 'these old songs suck'  |
yeah one of the Guitar Hero games had 3 tracks by Tool (they also had a unique tool-ey background art, because Tool didn't want to sell out for nothing ) and you can get the whole (I think) album of Moving Pictures by Rush. They also actually have 21st Century Schizoid Man on one of the games anyway.
Of course in terms of numbers the prog to pop rock ratio is still depressingly uneven 
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'Yeah, thats.. Whatever you're talking about for ya' - Zapp brannigan
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moshkito
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Posted: July 06 2010 at 19:52 |
The Wrinkler wrote:
Rock Band: Progressive Rock
I would have to go out and buy the game if they ever had one.
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That's actually a pretty good idea ... the problem being that some stuff being played in Roundaboud ... is not easy and ... not sure that too many of us can even try some of that bass stuff!
The problem is that music that is simpler has a basic "logic" that makes it easier to learn and play ... the reason why you get people play some blues is because it is easy ... the reason why nobody plays Pt 1 of Tales from Topographic Oceans, is because you have to be a fudging master musicians and be more intelligent than the next 50 musicians you meet in order to be insane enough to even try it!
Most folks that play music in college, and orchestras, can't even do that!
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
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moshkito
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Posted: July 06 2010 at 19:45 |
topographicbroadways wrote:
Easy
21st Century Schizoid Man, the ultimate prog intro.
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It's also the best way to alienate listeners, since the contrasts and assault concept that was used with it, was meant to get people to know the difference between loud music and loud crap! And I'm not sure you got that, if all you want to do is blow out everyone's ear wax, not share the benefits of music, however different it can be!
If you are to take someone down that journey, you should start with Beethoven and slowly brin gup music by every 25 years with a different piece until you reach 1950, then 1960 and then 1965 and then 1970.
In the end, all you are doing is showing music changing and growing and then making some sense of what rock music did and started doing to get some more acceptance as a valuable musical endeavor, which still is not going to get if all you want to do is shake people's ears and ideas off their rocker! It will sound completely out of context and not make any sense whatsoever regardless of the lyrics sounding like Milton, Shakespeare or RWEmerson or some silly idiot lyricist for Metalica!
The only way you can blow out the world and start a fresh is the day that the earth blows out its corona and we're all dead and there is no atmosphere and all you got is a rock in space ... and it all starts all over again somewhere else, or even here after a few million years! Astrophysics says no, but I like to say YES more times! Nous sommer du soleil!
Edited by moshkito - July 06 2010 at 19:48
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
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The Truth
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Posted: July 06 2010 at 15:55 |
La Villa Strangiato would be awesome on Rock Band 
But to answer the general question: We can't make the modern world love prog, they have to let it into their hearts  |
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richardh
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Posted: July 06 2010 at 15:16 |
chopper wrote:
The Wrinkler wrote:
Rock Band: Progressive Rock
I would have to go out and buy the game if they ever had one.
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Great idea. Let's have "Gates of Delirium" on Guitar Hero. That would really do your head in.
Actually "Owner of a Lonely Heart" would be good. |
I think you can already find things like YYZ and Lateralus on there (or certainly one of the other popular computer rock band games).
I have had fun making my nephew play drums on Hotel California getting comments like 'these old songs suck'
Edited by richardh - July 06 2010 at 15:18
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Posted: July 06 2010 at 13:44 |
Get rid of the X Factor, replace it with Prog Idol, and get Wakeman to present rather than the two Geordie muppets. Heaven 
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Shevrzl
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Posted: July 06 2010 at 11:23 |
I think there's quite a few out there who are not into prog just because they never heard of it rather than they don't like it. Show a metalhead some prog metal and see him make his way through. Sure, this won't be the case all the time but a fair percentage of them will. I think. 
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chopper
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Posted: July 06 2010 at 07:53 |
The Wrinkler wrote:
Rock Band: Progressive Rock
I would have to go out and buy the game if they ever had one.
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Great idea. Let's have "Gates of Delirium" on Guitar Hero. That would really do your head in.
Actually "Owner of a Lonely Heart" would be good.
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The Wrinkler
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Posted: July 06 2010 at 07:26 |
Rock Band: Progressive Rock I would have to go out and buy the game if they ever had one.
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Posted: July 06 2010 at 06:34 |
Slartibartfast wrote:
I think adding an extra o to to will help a lot. |
Just get Cheryl Cole/Tweedy to cover a Renaissance number.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: July 06 2010 at 05:50 |
I think adding an extra o to to will help a lot.
Edited by Slartibartfast - July 07 2010 at 06:01
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Vompatti
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Posted: July 06 2010 at 05:04 |
Slartibartfast wrote:
Vompatti wrote:
How about American Idol: Prog Edition?
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Yeah, but that would require having actual musicians as contestants.
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Not if they focus on Zeuhl.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: July 06 2010 at 04:34 |
Vompatti wrote:
How about American Idol: Prog Edition?
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Yeah, but that would require having actual musicians as contestants.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted: July 06 2010 at 03:38 |
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How about American Idol: Prog Edition?
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friso
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Posted: July 06 2010 at 03:07 |
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Get some chicks dancing in front of modern groups.
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WalterDigsTunes
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Posted: July 06 2010 at 01:05 |
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Easy: Establish an industry embargo on new music and focus on reissuing classic prog albums.
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richardh
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Posted: July 06 2010 at 01:02 |
The first 3 tracks of Red.The whole album is brilliant of course but the first side translates better into modern music.
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Progosopher
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Posted: July 05 2010 at 23:15 |
Are you trying to make the modern world more schizoid than it already is? Quite frankly, I'd rather it go Moonchild. 
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The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty"
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