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    Posted: January 23 2013 at 15:44
Aside from Argus, which is my favourite album of all time, I would especially recommend No Smoke Without Fire and Live Dates Vol 2

I would also recommend seeing Martin Turner's band as they recapture the classic 1970s sound of Wishbone Ash
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 11 2012 at 15:09
I saw them live in 1973 and the original reformed line up in 1988 on the Nouveau Calls tour (Ted Turner actually didn't arrive from the States in time for the start and rushed on stage around the 4th song!). I've seen the Ben Granfelt and Muddy manningen line ups several times in the last few years. They've never let me down at all.
 
Argus is one of half a dozen albums I'd rate as perfect. I also have a real love for No Smoke Without Fire, Pilgrimage and 4.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 11 2012 at 13:29
Martin Turner's Wishbone Ash did a special gig for fans, (special invite only) of the band who have supported them since the beginning. Unfortunately I could not attend because I was going away on my holiday early the following day. There are some great pictures all over Facebook from this event. Steve Upton made an appearance but did not play. Laurie Wisefield and Ted Turner however did turn up and did play at this event. Apparently it was a huge success and they even included a new song called Mystify Me. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 11 2012 at 11:37
Article about Martin Turner's Wishbone Ash in Classic Rock magazine.  They played a special private garden show that included a mini reunion with Ted Turner and a sighting of Steve Upton.  http://www.classicrockmagazine.com/features/classic-wishbone-ash-line-up-reunites-almost-at-intimate-garden-party-event/
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2011 at 13:29
I used to be in a Wishbone Ash tribute band called Phoenix Risng which I formed in 2005. I am friends with Martin Turner and his band Martin Turner's Wishbone Ash. He used my Ricky on their album Argus Through The Looking Glass available through his website and gigs only (which is why there's a thanks to me on the sleeve notes).
I just started a thread but here's some footage of my old band playing Persephone sorry about the quality....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycIkJril4tk&feature=related

My fave Wishbone albums are: New England and Wishbone Ash (1st)
My fave tracks are: Handy and Vas Dis
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 14 2011 at 10:45
quite agree about argus but there are other great albums even if less prog like new england, four, ther'sthe rub, front page newsBig smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 14 2011 at 08:51
I'm of the opinion that Argus is one of the best albums ever made. I dig Pilgrimage and some of their other records but nothings going to touch Argus for me. Wow. Just stunning. One of those albums I'm constantly playing for friends hoping they might get the same enjoyment out of it..... they never do........
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 04 2010 at 14:08
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

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Their debut is decent but weaker than Argus and Pilgimage.

 
Disagree. I'm far more likely to play the eponymous first album with end to end satisfaction, than any other of WA's output, especially with the endpiece and piece de resistance: Phoenix. IMHO one of those albums that fills the gap between the British blues boom of the 60's and prog flavoured rock of the early 70's  - reflecting steps in their progression for one band
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 02 2010 at 22:17
I saw them during the "Locked In" tour and they really played some beautiful music.  Along with rockin" out,,,I mean. The sound was perfect and the band was tight from the road. In 1999 I visited Disney World. I hunted down Tower Records in another town. I dropped some loot there, proceeded to walk the strip and presto! On the corner was a dive. A rat hole. A hole in the wall. With huge letters it was posted: Wishbone Ash. The building was the size of a small local corner bar in your average American town. So I sat there on a bench staring at that name for a very long time. I thought for the love of Christ, this is how Andy Powell lives his life? I've seen this happen to artists for many years yet I was somehow shocked this time. It's pretty pathetic to react the way that I did. It's probably due to the fond memories I have of them.  

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 02 2010 at 19:47
Originally posted by clarke2001 clarke2001 wrote:

I love Argus and There's The Rub. Number The Brave was annoying the hell out of me at first, but later I realised it's quite a good album once you get past the 80's sounds.


I love Number the brave.Great punchy album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 02 2010 at 08:27
I to saw the Ash a good few times in the 70s and have to say there where one the best Live acts around. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 02 2010 at 08:01
Having seen them several times on stage in paris in the seventies, i can tell you they were a great live band and some of their tracks realy deserve to be considered as prog...favourite ones argus, first, there's a rub, new england, but in fact i love most of their stuff except maybe locked in ( only one good track)Thumbs Up
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2010 at 09:01
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by TODDLER TODDLER wrote:

Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by TODDLER TODDLER wrote:

Their debut is decent but weaker than Argus and Pilgimage.

 
Disagree. I'm far more likely to play the eponymous first album with end to end satisfaction, than any other of WA's output, especially with the endpiece and piece de resistance: Phoenix. IMHO one of those albums that fills the gap between the British blues boom of the 60's and prog flavoured rock of the early 70's  - reflecting steps in their progression for one band
I think what drove me nuts was sitting in front of the turntable learning Andy Powell leads. I was dissapointed in the production of the debut and enjoyed his guitar work on the live version of Phoenix a bit more. You are correct about the debut filling the gaps between British Blues Boom and flavoured rock of the early 70's. I didn't take that aspect into account. Regarding the debut, for me personally, I like the overall sound of their guitars on Argus or the sound of Andy Powell's guitar on "Ashes Are Burning" a bit more.
 
Have they remastered the first album yet? It certainly seemed to have low priority compared with the subsequent 6 or 7 alblums?
I'm not sure. The sound of the drums on there are like cardboard boxes and it's a shame. The album is just outstanding! The remasterd or probably re-mixed version of Argus has some flaws too. "The King Will Come" sounds incredible...don't get me wrong. During the sections of the song where you normally hear quiet dynamic melodic guitar and vocal harmonies and perhaps on the original cd release are not dominate enough to the listener, are turned up in volume for the new mix. This is a situation where it feels like a sound tech is in the room with me and I'm watching him move the levels on the mixing board. As opposed to having the entrie mix blend well with the rest of the recording. It comes across like...."Okay, we are turning it up now". This is common to happen when the original analog recordings are re-mixed. On The Beatles Yellow Submarine Songtrack, it doesn't sound like anything is increasing or decreasing in volume. Yet it is re-mixed. In that case it's more about being creative with digital equipment and not just knowing the rules of using it. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2010 at 03:40
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 01 2010 at 16:53
Argus is one of the best albums ever, besides Animals and Hemispheres it was one of the albums that got me into prog rock Thumbs Up (maybe I should do a review on that album Wink)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 01 2010 at 15:23
I love Argus and There's The Rub. Number The Brave was annoying the hell out of me at first, but later I realised it's quite a good album once you get past the 80's sounds.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 01 2010 at 12:25
I'll never forget the first time. The stranger leans over the counter and points at my cd with the helmet guy with sword. My girlfriend, standing bubbly had recommended it, the guylooks at me and says "great album, dude" So I get home and "Blowin Free" is perking away and the first lick after "Iknow..because I seen her" right there my bubbly blonde short ass lady busts into an air-guitar. Open and expressive, that set the tone for this classic album see" Leaf and Stream" "Throw Down The Sword" and my fav, "The King Will Come"
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 01 2010 at 11:11
Originally posted by TODDLER TODDLER wrote:

Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by TODDLER TODDLER wrote:

Their debut is decent but weaker than Argus and Pilgimage.

 
Disagree. I'm far more likely to play the eponymous first album with end to end satisfaction, than any other of WA's output, especially with the endpiece and piece de resistance: Phoenix. IMHO one of those albums that fills the gap between the British blues boom of the 60's and prog flavoured rock of the early 70's  - reflecting steps in their progression for one band
I think what drove me nuts was sitting in front of the turntable learning Andy Powell leads. I was dissapointed in the production of the debut and enjoyed his guitar work on the live version of Phoenix a bit more. You are correct about the debut filling the gaps between British Blues Boom and flavoured rock of the early 70's. I didn't take that aspect into account. Regarding the debut, for me personally, I like the overall sound of their guitars on Argus or the sound of Andy Powell's guitar on "Ashes Are Burning" a bit more.
 
Have they remastered the first album yet? It certainly seemed to have low priority compared with the subsequent 6 or 7 alblums?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 29 2010 at 08:34
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by TODDLER TODDLER wrote:

Their debut is decent but weaker than Argus and Pilgimage.

 
Disagree. I'm far more likely to play the eponymous first album with end to end satisfaction, than any other of WA's output, especially with the endpiece and piece de resistance: Phoenix. IMHO one of those albums that fills the gap between the British blues boom of the 60's and prog flavoured rock of the early 70's  - reflecting steps in their progression for one band
I think what drove me nuts was sitting in front of the turntable learning Andy Powell leads. I was dissapointed in the production of the debut and enjoyed his guitar work on the live version of Phoenix a bit more. You are correct about the debut filling the gaps between British Blues Boom and flavoured rock of the early 70's. I didn't take that aspect into account. Regarding the debut, for me personally, I like the overall sound of their guitars on Argus or the sound of Andy Powell's guitar on "Ashes Are Burning" a bit more.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2010 at 18:09
wishbone ash is great, Argus and there's the rub are my favorites.
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