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    Posted: April 21 2010 at 02:52
  1. Properly stretched strings--basically this means that when putting on a new set of strings, you need to tug on the strings to stretch them out. you cannot simply tune the new set up to pitch and expect it to hold--you have to yank on the string and then keep retuning until it no longer goes flat after you yank. i prefer to use an electronic tuner for this--not because my ears stink, but because more often than not i find myself doing the stretching in a very noisy environment, such as a club or during soundcheck when the drummer is whacking the hell out of his snare drum.
  2. A well-cut nut--this means a nut that is just perfect for the string gauge that you use. if it's too tight, when you use the tuner, the string will get pinched in the nut, and then when you bend or play, this pinching will give, causing the string to go flat.
  3. Stable tuners--this is not as big of a deal, since most tuners--even the really bad ones don't slip.
  4. Proper tuning technique--this sounds really STUPID, but it's EXTREMELY important. when you tune, always tune in the SHARP direction. let me give an example:

    suppose you are trying to tune the fifth string to A. currently the string is flat. In order to tune properly you need to turn the tuning gear until you hit A. If you go SHARP, the WRONG thing to do is to turn the gear down until you hit A. The reason this is incorrect is because there is still a minute amount of slack in the tuner--no matter how good the tuner is, there is ALWAYS some slack.

    for those of you who would doubt this, try overshooting your target note and then tuning DOWN toward the note. once you hit the note, take your finger and give the string a big yank. now check your tuning again--i GUARANTEE it's going to be flat, if only a few cents or so.

    If you go too far sharp, the PROPER way to tune is to turn the gear so that the resulting note is DELIBERATELY flat. In other words, going back to our example, if you overshoot your A note, then turn the tuner so you are FLATTER than A. now give the string a tug as you would do when you are stretching. the slack in the tuner will give. now tune towards the A, being careful not to overshoot. if you overshoot, repeat the process. The key is to tune in the SHARP direction only!

If you fail to observe any of these points above, you're going to be in a mess, because stable tuning requires all of the above elements to be in place. Likely you're going to find that your tuning problem is the result of a combination of the above factors--after following all of the above guidelines, I usually find that even the worst and cheapest guitars stay in tune just fine.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 20 2010 at 12:10
Tuning standard EADGBE ....to be found around middle C of the piano, can be developed to the ear by singing the notes to yourself. Start quietly with your voice, then remain quiet allowing the notes to transform into your mind. Like the church bells in your hometown repeating the same notes over and over again and as a toddler you become absorbed with it. Or everyone knows the standard clock chime or door bell ring. It's basically the same process in your mind. If you can train your ear to communicate with your mind it's a quicker method for perfect tuning on stage when the least thing goes wrong, such as one string being out of tune. While your singer is announcing the next number, you can turn to the keyboard player and ask for an E note, then quietly do your business in a matter of seconds. More than less, you will be in tune because you have the notes memorized in your mind. It works everytime and is not noticed that often by the crowd.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2010 at 02:25

Tuning a guitar is the single most important concept for a beginner to learn. At the same time it can often an early stumbling block. If your guitar is not in tune, you will never sound good. Rather than having your friends tune your guitar for you, you should learn how to do it for yourself.

There are several ways you can tune a guitar: by ear, with an electronic tuner, using another instrument such as a piano or a pitch fork. Most beginners will find it easiest to start with an electronic tuner. Don’t worry, tuning by ear is a skill that comes with time.

For step by step instructions on tuning a guitar you should read The First Time Ever I Tuned My Axe by Graham Merry. Another set of instructions can be found in How to Tune A Guitar.

It is also possible to tune your guitar using harmonic tuning.

This answer can be edited and improved by you on the Guitar Noise Wiki. Go to How to tune a guitar and select edit to make improvements.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 12 2010 at 01:02
Originally posted by billy bob weible billy bob weible wrote:

i have one standard EADGBE   
i have one in d standard DGCFAD
i have one in new standard  CGDAEG
i am also working on a new guitar with everything one octive down from standard
i think it will make some awesome low chords
but i havent found the right gages for them yet

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 11 2010 at 21:56
yeah it would be different than a bass because of the two higher strings, shorter scale length, and floppy-as-sh*t strings
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 11 2010 at 21:43
holy crap
your right
im sorry
i was just picturing the gauges of the strings
my e is thinner than a g on the bass
so i guess i want a 6 string bass without the low b
i want it tuned like a guitar
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 11 2010 at 14:19
Originally posted by clarke2001 clarke2001 wrote:

Originally posted by billy bob weible billy bob weible wrote:

i have one standard EADGBE   
i have one in d standard DGCFAD
i have one in new standard  CGDAEG
i am also working on a new guitar with everything one octive down from standard
i think it will make some awesome low chords
but i havent found the right gages for them yet


I don't get it. Isn't one octave lower than a guitar the same thing as a bass guitar?
 
 
Well, yes, but the bass has a completely different voice than the guitar, as I'm sure you know, so a one-octave-down guitar should offer up a completely different platter of sonic goodies. I'd be interested in hearing this.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 11 2010 at 12:51
From low to high
D G C G C  D
For playing Led Zeppelin's "The Rain Song"
I play a Hohner Marine Band harmonica in the key of G in place of the mellotron solo
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 11 2010 at 12:22
I'm pretty damn sure that the bass is ONE octave below the guitar...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 11 2010 at 08:05
Originally posted by clarke2001 clarke2001 wrote:

Originally posted by billy bob weible billy bob weible wrote:

i have one standard EADGBE   
i have one in d standard DGCFAD
i have one in new standard  CGDAEG
i am also working on a new guitar with everything one octive down from standard
i think it will make some awesome low chords
but i havent found the right gages for them yet


I don't get it. Isn't one octave lower than a guitar the same thing as a bass guitar?
no
a bass is 2 octaves under a guitar
i want a mid range guitar
one thats inbetween the 2
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 11 2010 at 06:20
Originally posted by billy bob weible billy bob weible wrote:

i have one standard EADGBE   
i have one in d standard DGCFAD
i have one in new standard  CGDAEG
i am also working on a new guitar with everything one octive down from standard
i think it will make some awesome low chords
but i havent found the right gages for them yet


I don't get it. Isn't one octave lower than a guitar the same thing as a bass guitar?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 11 2010 at 05:40
i have one standard EADGBE   
i have one in d standard DGCFAD
i have one in new standard  CGDAEG
i am also working on a new guitar with everything one octive down from standard
i think it will make some awesome low chords
but i havent found the right gages for them yet
"How I wish that the world had just one throat and my fingers were around it"- idiot flesh
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 10 2010 at 06:21
Dropped D (DADGBE).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2010 at 20:30
Standard or drop D most of the time, though most of the songs I write tend to be in standard. Though I'm writing one at the moment in open Cm.

Originally posted by synthguy synthguy wrote:

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2010 at 12:23
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 07 2010 at 16:23
I have several guitars that I keep in different tunings pretty much all the time:
 
Ibanez RG - Standard
Ibanez 7-string - Something that amounts to open A
Les Paul - Open C (Devin Townsend, anyone?)
SG - Drop D
Alvarez acoustic - DADGAD
Fender acoustic - Standard
 
I hate tuning, so I just keep it like this so I don't have to fool with it LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 07 2010 at 13:37
Originally posted by Abstrakt Abstrakt wrote:

The guitar is A-E-A-E-A-E at the moment, jamming out some weird stoner riffs Tongue


I jammed together a 6-min song today in that tuning. It's a rather slow instrumental in 6/8, kinda alternative or experimental grunge/metal.
Starts with a nice litte fingerpicking pattern that alters a bit as it moves along, then off for some really nice and really heavy low-tuned riffs, before returning to the fingerpicking, and finishing off with a call-and-response riff between the low and high strings.
Sounds really nice! A bit like Kyuss or Pelican Big smile

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 06 2010 at 16:24
and my tuner better have fresh batteries because I can't tune by ear any more. Used too, can't anymore
and nobody better rip me on this!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 06 2010 at 16:13
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 06 2010 at 15:25
When it's not EADGBE, it's DADAAD.

Another nice one is utilising only four strings, it's D, Bb, G, E. Easy chords all over the fretboard, and slighlty avant/flamenco/eerie feel.

My mandolin and bass are tuned by the standard (but mandolin is not reversed for left-handed as my other instruments), my balalaika is Dda, with medium gauge acoustic metal guitar strings.

Bouzouki in standard tune.
Upright bass lowered to DAEB (necessity, the neck is fragile).
 


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