A health care question... - Progressive Rock Music Forum

Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

^I guess Dean, Garten, Guigo, John and the other admins would be the death panels... LOL

We should really let the government run PA.... Tongue

The T wrote:

harmonium.ro wrote:

^ That is just a contradiction. Geek

You see, you're already arguing about what arguing means... LOL

What??? No he's not! God, you're dumb.

Tongue

https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays

^ That is just a contradiction. Geek

My friends, and I do count the PA community as friends, however abstractly...PM me, tell me I'm an ass, let's talk, that's the only reason we even bother to point the browser to this particular site. As long as there is a General Discussions forum, this stuff will come up, and I will rant or not. History tells me we all will rant or not. I avoid the DT threads. I generally know when to back off. From the days back in the bars in Wyoming, I knew when to fold, or I'd be that guy tied to a fencepost, left to freeze in the wind. We care about stuff, whether it's petty or global. I actually enjoy it. It's a break from the tedium of A Passion Play

Can you tell me where we're headin'?
Lincoln County Road or Armageddon.

Negoba wrote:

But arguing about Genesis isn't quite as personal as health care...or maybe it is.

What did you just say about Supper's Ready?

Take your anti-Genesis opinions back to North Korea where those kind of sentiments belong.

I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?

Negoba wrote:

Maybe this community should stick to discussions about music...

Naw, we'd just argue about that

Edited by jammun - April 07 2010 at 12:24

Can you tell me where we're headin'?
Lincoln County Road or Armageddon.

Atavachron wrote:

jammun wrote:

C'mon, really, not one guess? 17 days in the hospital for lymphoma surgery is the deal. No one willing to take a wild estimate?

I'll take a stab: $150,000 ..and I'm guessing that's an underestimation

Okay, it was a mere $108K. I'm not sure whether or not that included the out-of-hospital physician costs, which may have been billed seperately.

The point being: this sort of thing could happen to any of us, at any time, really. It might not be lymphoma, but it could be that out of the blue brain tumor that killed that 35 year old guy I worked with (after a year of surgeries, chemo, etc.). It could be that refinery accident that sends some unfortunate person to the burn unit for months. It could be the auto accident that ruptured another of my friend's spleen. Dead at 45.

So if you find yourself in these straits, without insurance, and you get that bill for $100-200K, who ya gonna call? Ghostbusters, or a bankruptcy lawyer?

Can you tell me where we're headin'?
Lincoln County Road or Armageddon.

The T wrote:

jammun wrote:

C'mon, really, not one guess? 17 days in the hospital for lymphoma surgery is the deal. No one willing to take a wild estimate?

I know it will be a depressing figure. Others may not want to take a wild guess since it is a "normal consequence of free market". Remember, profit is what counts.

I just wish she is well and better. And that one day families don't have to go bankrupt due to illness. Of all the reasons to go bankrupt, health should never be one in a country that spends trillions of dollars a year in wars (for example).

Yeah, it may be the normal consequence of that market, in which case that market is broken,

which was sort of how this thread started.

She's well and better, for now, thanks. She's too old -- the woman is 89 yrs or so -- for follow-up radiation and/or chemo, which would probably double the costs and probably kill her. So prognosis is not good in any case. Ethically this is all up for grabs...I'm not going to argue that piece of it. Mother to five, grandmother to many more, great-grandmother to yet more. She's had a good life. So not arguing the ethics of it. That's another thread, another dilemma, as I think I mentioned earlier.

I'm still interested in hearing anyone's guess at the 2-1/2 weeks number, particularly those who don't think some sort of health care reform is in order.

Hint: I guessed $3000 per day x 18 days.

Edited by jammun - April 07 2010 at 01:51

Can you tell me where we're headin'?
Lincoln County Road or Armageddon.

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