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nacho
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Joined: November 18 2004
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Topic: Anyone know of the band Carmen... Posted: May 23 2005 at 06:04 |
I had never heard of them, but I was curious after reading this thread. Now I found some songs (I won't tell you how they came to me) and I have to agree with Carakhallo: they were just pathetic...
I also think I disagree with Wallace, but I cannot be completely sure on this
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Fantômas
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Joined: April 15 2005
Location: Brazil
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Posted: May 22 2005 at 11:45 |
They're a good band. You can find 'em in soulseek store ®...
Edited by Fantômas
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And above all, is punk
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wallace
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Joined: January 09 2005
Location: Canada
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Posted: May 22 2005 at 09:45 |
Wallace hae awareness ay maist ay th'late 70s/erlay 80s Spanish fusion/prog groups, an' fer Wallace's dollar, Carmen beats awl seven shades o' sh*te oot o' em awl.
Carmen wert ootstandin'.
Shure, fer sheer musicianship,the Spanish guitar proggers are clear amaingst the varra best, but wha makit Carmen stand oot is the accessable yet challangin' compositioon and the dynamics. Alser there is mair give an' play -ebb an' flow in th' longer pieces tha in similar ains done by th' Spanish.
(Noo tae mentioon tha mellotron wark.)
Carmen did twa side-long concept tracks -and dems be exceptioonal!
Carmen be th' exceptioon tae th' rule.
Aye, on a rare occassioon a faux-band CAN acterly surpass th' origernal chops.
('An' dooant fergit tha whan it coom ter origernality, Spain - which came inter th' prog-front late inna scene -could only be a clone o'UK/Italy. Albiet a clone dressed oop wiv Spanish mannerisms. Hokay -its noo fair o' Wallace to sayit dis. This applies equally to all c**teries wic faller'd in the steps o' th' pioneering prog c**teries.)
Ah cannae unnerstaun' Spanish langwidge so ah cannae speak fer Spanish prog lyric, but wha I DO lik aybit Carmen's lyrics be th' ingrain'd MELANCHOLY tha crops up here an' thare.(Spanish literature has this in common with Roossian.) Fer instance, thare be a scene in the epic concept on side twa o' "Dancing on a Cold Wind" where the lover's tragedy befalls an' Daith be all arund. Dis gets Wallace a-blubberin' evray time.
Secund lp, "Dancing On A Cold Wind" (wh' a wunnerfool title!) be, tae Wallace's ear, even a bit mair "Spanish" den "Fandangos" lp.
"Gypsies" (laist) lp is th' least progressive an' ha' least flamenco-stylin's. It be mair towaards straight rock.
O coorse, th' only Spaniard inna band were th' dancer -flash assa rat wif a gold tooth an' 'ansome as all get -Roberto Amaral.
Coontrary tae wha many believe -the Allen bruther an' sister are frae Amerikay, noo British.
David Bowie discoover'd dem an' brought in Fenton & Glascock o' UK bluesrock band ,Chicken Shed.
(Th'bassist, Glascock, later gang tae play on Jethro Tull lps "Songs from the Wood","Heavy Horses", "Too Old to R&R" an' "Bursting Out". Him were workin' on "Stormwatch" when him dies o' heart failure (brought on by tooth infectioon!) )
Alser one mun tek inter cornshideratioon tha Carmen wert th' band tha whirlwind'd Bowie arf th'stage.
Tha's sayin' summat!
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Carakhallo
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Joined: May 12 2005
Location: Spain
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Posted: May 22 2005 at 06:53 |
Carmen are awful. A couple of englishmen trying to sound like spanish... but without the feeling needed to do it. If you want some good flamenco-rock, try the originals (I mean, the spanish bands): Cai, Alameda (first three albums) and Triana (first four albums), for example. And if you want to listen to the greatest flamenco singer doing flamenco fusion, try Camarón "La leyenda del tiempo".
So I don´t really care about where to find any of Carmen releases... . Beleive me, forget them...
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DallasBryan
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Joined: November 23 2004
Location: United States
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Posted: May 22 2005 at 04:57 |
Saw them with Jethro Tull years ago. Fandangoes in
Space is a good not great album, the flamenco thing
works to varying degrees along the way. Wish they
could have developed it further. Bozzio Levin Stevens
kinda built on that same idea on a few songs more
recently.
think it must be out of print currently. try
www7.gemm.com, they should have one or two.
Edited by DallasBryan
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Heptade
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Joined: May 19 2005
Location: Canada
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Posted: May 21 2005 at 21:39 |
Yep, Carmen is great.
At least one of the albums, Fandangos in Space,
was out on CD at one point, but I searched a few
retailers and found nothing new.
You may have to resort to Ebay or file-sharing.
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MustShaveBeard
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Joined: February 20 2005
Location: United States
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Posted: May 21 2005 at 21:04 |
and where I can find one of their CD's? They have a sound that sounds very intriguing to me (flamenco-prog). Thanks (if you help me)!
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Your life or your lupins!!!
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