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Bryan 
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 Topic: Nick DrakePosted: May 26 2005 at 22:11 |
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My favorite album of Nick's is Pink Moon, which is quite simply
hearbreaking. His suicide was a tragedy (it's completely untrue
that he did it just so that he'd become popular, by the way).
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frenchie
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Posted: May 19 2005 at 14:57 |
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Karny! What are you doing here? |
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Syzygy
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Posted: May 19 2005 at 14:50 |
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Whilst I agree with you about most musical matters SeanTrane, I'd have to take issue with your assessment of Van the Man - in addition to Astral Weeks and St Dominics Preview, Common One has long, loose, jazzy and very meditational songs that are well up to the standard of his early work. He's been very hit and miss for most of the last 25 years, but like Neil Young it's always a mistake to write him off as a spent force. I'm also a Nick Drake fan, and I actually prefer Pink Moon to the other two although it was the hardest one to get into and definitely not a great place for newbies to start. John Martyn, as KE9 pointed out, is an equally fine artist - Solid Air is probably the best one to start with. |
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I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
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Sean Trane
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Posted: May 19 2005 at 10:02 |
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Nick Drake's better album is IMHO Five Leaves Left. Trostky/Martin: I answered your Martyn thread today! As far as Van Morrison, I would not call him a troubadour since he is way to swingy and heavy orchestration. However Astral Weeks (68-9)is tops in my book (I do not know an album with more soul power than that one) and St Dominic's Preview(71-2)i s also full of long songs likely to please progheads! Stop around Hard Nose the highway, though! |
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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Intruder
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Posted: May 19 2005 at 05:06 |
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Is Nick Drake a mediocre poet or a metaphysical genius? I guess a bit of both....I love the atmosphere he creates thru song, but I will admit it may be a bit too precious for some tastes. I really dig the "Five Leaves Left"....Drake on piano/guitar and the fab Danny Thompson on bass. Honestly, I'd take Tim Buckley any old day....what a voice! |
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I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there.....
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Jimbo
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Posted: May 19 2005 at 04:59 |
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Thanks all
 , sounds really interesting..
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Man Erg
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Posted: May 19 2005 at 04:33 |
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[QUOTE=Matti]
Man Erg said: "He could have become the U.K.'s answer to Tim Buckley." Definitely well said. (BTW, wasn't Buckley too one of those who died quite young?) Yes ,I'm afraid he did,as well as his extremely talented Son,Jeff. 
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Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb. |
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Matti
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Posted: May 19 2005 at 04:04 |
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Man Erg said: "He could have become the U.K.'s answer to Tim Buckley." Definitely well said. (BTW, wasn't Buckley too one of those who died quite young?) I have heard Bryter and 5 Leaves albums, very pleasant music and voice. So sad... R.I.P. |
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Man Erg
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Posted: May 19 2005 at 03:45 |
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Absolutely fantastic musician. I have everything that he's recorded official or otherwise.I went to see his 'grave' in Tanworth - in -Arden a few years ago.What a strange place.I should imagine it's what life was like in the 1930s.All very Miss Marple,Coffee Mornings,Knitting Circles and Women's Institute. I also went to The Nick Drake Tribute Concert at The Barbican.It was so-so.Biggest let-down was Robyn Hitchcock who did a 'punky version' of one of ND's songs and Beverley Martyn.She came across as a Supply Primary School Teacher. An older mate of mine was lucky enough to see ND in 1969 supporting Fairport Convention at The Royal Festival Hall.He thought that.although ND was painfully shy,he was also mesmerising at the same time.He could have become the U.K.'s answer to Tim Buckley.But,to me,he really has no comparison. Edited by Man Erg |
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Trotsky
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Posted: May 18 2005 at 22:01 |
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My earlier post about Troubadours died a lonely death ... maybe because I forgot to mention Van Morisson but Nick Drake is a genius, I can tell you that I'm one of three Nick Drake fans I personally know and we each differ on which is the best album ... I think it's Five Leaves Left ... the string arrangements by Robert Kirby are outstanding as is almost every song ... but the others are damn good too ... Bryter Layter is a much breezier album ... and Pink Moon despite its sparse arrangements really isn't the depressing suicide note some people make it out to be ... Try Time Of No Reply only after you're heard the rest ... I wouldn't say it was a lost fourth album as much as an outtakes collection ... 4 or 5 of the songs on it are very good ... but half of it is also filler, I think ... and that's about the only filler this great songwriter recorded ... Some people don't live up to the hype and mystique ... Nick Drake really does ... I've never met anyone who's heard Nick Drake's music and remained unaffected ... |
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Posted: May 18 2005 at 21:47 |
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I HAVE ALL DRAKES ALBUMS,FANTASTIC ARTIST & VERY UNDERATED ARTIST.AS I HAVE ALL JOHN MARTYNS TOO. BRILLIANT.NOW I GUESS THAT SUPRISED YOU ALL? BTW:HE MADE 4 ALBUMS..''TIME OF NO REPLY'' DIDNT GET RELEASED TIL '84.
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James Lee
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Posted: May 18 2005 at 21:38 |
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I think "Bryter Later" is the best of his original albums, but all three are really, really good. Some of the most emotionally honest and moving songs I've ever heard. http://www.algonet.se/~iguana/DRAKE/DRAKE.html (BTW: I got a good selection of his stuff from P2P filesharing...but then I bought the albums! |
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spectral
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Posted: May 18 2005 at 18:08 |
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he was a manic depressive who supposedly took an accidental overdose of barbituates. I doubt he committed suicide to become famous. He created 3 albums before he died: Fives Leaves Left Bryter Later Pink Moon |
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frenchie
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Posted: May 18 2005 at 18:01 |
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i'm in the same position as you jim, i hear his best albums are pink moon and bryter layter.
I hear when he made these albums he was unknown but then he killed himself so that his work wud be more famous later? I dunno if its true or not, does he have any other albums? |
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spectral
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Posted: May 18 2005 at 17:51 |
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I've got "Way to Blue: An Introduction to Nick Drake" - the perfect starting point to discovering his music. |
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"...misty halos made visible by the spectral illumination of moonshine."
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Jimbo
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Posted: May 18 2005 at 16:56 |
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Any fans around? I've heard many great things about his music, but I
haven't heard any of his albums yet. What album would be a good
starting point with his music?
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