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Tsevir Leirbag 
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 Topic: Twice the same thread
Posted: January 12 2010 at 18:50 |
 Easy Money wrote:
I don't think 'forcing' people onto old threads is such a good idea. New people join the site everyday, and old members leave the site. The new members should be able to discuss the same old subjects, but from a fresh angle with new people involved.
Arguments about who is better Emerson, Wakeman or Jon Lord come up over and over again. Making people post on an old thread seems a little too conservative and controlling to me.
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I'll give the exemple I used in the OP again.
- Someone have a good idea for a thread: it will be called Current Listening
- There is already a thread that's called What ARE you listening to now
- So when he clicks on Post New Topic, he could arrive on a page called Similar Threads or something like that. Then he can see the threads with similar names, and then, notice that his new thread already exists.
That's not forcing people and it's not conservative / controlling it's just telling them a similar thread already exist and it could answer the question they ask (if it's a question, for exemple) without creating a post that already exists
Edited by Tsevir Leirbag - January 12 2010 at 18:53
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: January 12 2010 at 12:10 |
I don't know if there's an easy way to merge duplicate threads. I've been here long enough that I keep getting this feeling of thread deja voodoodoo. But hey, you can always have a little fun publicly humiliating the miscreants for not using the search function. Oh OK I'm a bit nicer and dish up a friendly heads up. 
Edited by Slartibartfast - January 12 2010 at 12:10
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Easy Money
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Posted: January 12 2010 at 10:45 |
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Current duplicate threads can be taken care of by notifying an admins, in the case of the supposed duplicate atheist threads, we 'believe' that they are different enough in nature to continue seperately. One is a poll/debate, the other is for atheist/agnostics to discuss their 'beliefs', are lack of as the case may be.
Edited by Easy Money - January 12 2010 at 10:46
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: January 12 2010 at 10:32 |
Easy Money wrote:
I don't think 'forcing' people onto old threads is such a good idea. New people join the site everyday, and old members leave the site. The new members should be able to discuss the same old subjects, but from a fresh angle with new people involved.
Arguments about who is better Emerson, Wakeman or Jon Lord come up over and over again. Making people post on an old thread seems a little too conservative and controlling to me.
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That seems fair enough but perhaps a compromise solution could be arrived at which might 'gently educate' thread starters to at least attempt to avoid duplication of subjects that are currently still active on the forums ?
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Easy Money
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Posted: January 12 2010 at 07:21 |
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I don't think 'forcing' people onto old threads is such a good idea. New people join the site everyday, and old members leave the site. The new members should be able to discuss the same old subjects, but from a fresh angle with new people involved.
Arguments about who is better Emerson, Wakeman or Jon Lord come up over and over again. Making people post on an old thread seems a little too conservative and controlling to me.
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Tsevir Leirbag
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Posted: January 11 2010 at 19:33 |
ExittheLemming wrote:
Tsevir Leirbag wrote:
BUMP
Now I HAVE an exemple....
Recently, we've seen something like a hundred threads about atheism, gods, evolutionism/creationism, etc.
Isn't that enough? |
There is only the one true thread and woe betide sinners who worship false threads 
Seriously though, I think your idea is a good one i.e. can PA tweak the forum software to force the thread starter to be pro-active about possible duplication ?.
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Something like that, precisely.
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Un marin mort,
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: January 11 2010 at 00:16 |
Tsevir Leirbag wrote:
BUMP
Now I HAVE an exemple....
Recently, we've seen something like a hundred threads about atheism, gods, evolutionism/creationism, etc.
Isn't that enough? |
There is only the one true thread and woe betide sinners who worship false threads Seriously though, I think your idea is a good one i.e. can PA tweak the forum software to force the thread starter to be pro-active about possible duplication ?.
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Tsevir Leirbag
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Posted: January 10 2010 at 20:24 |
BUMP.
I do find this problem important, I think we should do something about it.
I don't want this idea to be forgotten
Easy Livin wrote:
If you can provide a link to the exisitng thread that you think is sufficient, it's easy enough for an admin to close the new one with a link back to the old. |
I know that, but wouldn't it be useful for everyone if we had a system like that /
It would be also easier for the admins, I think.
Edited by Tsevir Leirbag - January 10 2010 at 20:25
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Les mains, les pieds balancés
Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers,
Un marin mort,
Il dormira
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Tsevir Leirbag
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Posted: December 28 2009 at 16:51 |
Again
- Maybe people don't know there is a search option (that would be surprising)
- Maybe people don't USE the search option (probable)
- Maybe people don't know how to use this fonction...
If people don't search, we should not let them open existant threads, but we should make a system like I suggested...
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Les mains, les pieds balancés
Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers,
Un marin mort,
Il dormira
- Paul Éluard
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progkidjoel
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Posted: December 27 2009 at 04:49 |
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Why don't we get a thread tagging system? Its on a lot of other forums.
Then it could be used to implement this system, IE, a thread with 1/2 tags the same will show similar results in a side column.
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Easy Livin
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Posted: December 27 2009 at 04:20 |
If you can provide a link to the exisitng thread that you think is sufficient, it's easy enough for an admin to close the new one with a link back to the old.
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Tsevir Leirbag
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Posted: December 26 2009 at 19:45 |
BUMP
Same problem again
Edited by Tsevir Leirbag - December 26 2009 at 19:46
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Les mains, les pieds balancés
Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers,
Un marin mort,
Il dormira
- Paul Éluard
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Tsevir Leirbag
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Posted: December 09 2009 at 13:45 |
BUMP
Now I HAVE an exemple....
Recently, we've seen something like a hundred threads about atheism, gods, evolutionism/creationism, etc.
Isn't that enough?
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Les mains, les pieds balancés
Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers,
Un marin mort,
Il dormira
- Paul Éluard
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The Runaway
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Posted: November 08 2009 at 12:30 |
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Great idea! BUMP
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Tsevir Leirbag
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Posted: October 18 2009 at 16:49 |
I'd like this thread to be helpful in the correction of two problems I noticed.
I remarked recently that sometimes, people create a new (same) thread twice. I don't have any exemple for now, but I saw that a couple of times in the last two or three months.
Another thing is that sometimes, people create threads that already exist without knowing (I assume that it also happens that people are aware of these threads but still want to create another one). I think we should make something like, for exemple:
- Someone have a good idea for a thread: it will be called Current Listening
- There is already a thread that's called What ARE you listening to now
- So when he clicks on Post New Topic, he could arrive on a page called Similar Threads or something like that. Then he can see the threads with similar names, and then, notice that his new thread already exists.
Cheers 
Gabriel
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Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers,
Un marin mort,
Il dormira
- Paul Éluard
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