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Tony R 
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 Topic: A bit of cleanup in Transatlantic
Posted: November 23 2009 at 06:48 |
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Good work Ian.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: November 23 2009 at 05:02 |
I have changed the details of Leg End, what do you think?
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Snow Dog
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Posted: November 23 2009 at 04:50 |
 Dean wrote:
^ I remember now we've had this Henry Cow discussion before (before the 40th Anniversary box-set fiasco).
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I have asked people to move their Henry Cow reviews, so far one person has, but I'm worried about this Leg End (Original Mix). Seems a perfect one to go to an Alternative release category.
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LiquidEternity
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Posted: November 22 2009 at 21:00 |
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I stand behind Snow Dog on this one.
What is the problem it would create with Yes? I mean, aside from the fancier remaster versions with the bonus tracks, which could not be included as a different version according to current rules, why would having a subcategory as handy as "Alternative Releases" bungle Yes?
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Snow Dog
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Posted: November 22 2009 at 11:31 |
Dean wrote:
^ I remember now we've had this Henry Cow discussion before (before the 40th Anniversary box-set fiasco).
Certainly Ian's suggestion would clean up The Beatles and Henry Cow, but could make a total mess (well a different kind of mess) of Yes and still not help Rick Wakeman very much. I think it would also invite too many unsolicited additions of albums with regional bonus tracks. Just about every release now-a-days comes as a limited edition digipak and from a collector's point of view it would be nice to have those documented separately. |
Yes but with bonus tracks we would do as now, and add the info to the basic album release, making only the one entry into the database.
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Dean
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Posted: November 22 2009 at 10:33 |
^ I remember now we've had this Henry Cow discussion before (before the 40th Anniversary box-set fiasco).
Certainly Ian's suggestion would clean up The Beatles and Henry Cow, but could make a total mess (well a different kind of mess) of Yes and still not help Rick Wakeman very much. I think it would also invite too many unsolicited additions of albums with regional bonus tracks. Just about every release now-a-days comes as a limited edition digipak and from a collector's point of view it would be nice to have those documented separately.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: November 22 2009 at 10:12 |
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Just curious if anything is happening here. It's messing with my OCD!
Also, I would vote to put in the EPs/singles/fan club/etc. category another listing, something like "alternate versions." That way, English copies of PFM's releases don't confuse the heck out of everybody who doesn't speak Italian in addition to their English--and that way the Roine Stolt Mixes will have somewhere they actually belong.
I have lots of mildly helpful but likely incredibly problematic ideas to share. Sorry.
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I have suggested already...Boxsets, compilations and Alternative Releases.
What do you think?
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Posted: November 22 2009 at 10:10 |
Padraic wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
This Henry Cow Leg End original mix...what is it?
not a remaster? |
These were the original LP mixes that were reissued by ReR a few years back. Prior to that there were alternative mixes of Leg End, Unrest, and In Praise of Learning that were issued by East Side Digital in the early 1990s. I've only heard the two versions of In Praise of Learning and I can attest that they are quite different.
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Thanks.
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Padraic
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Posted: November 22 2009 at 10:04 |
Snow Dog wrote:
This Henry Cow Leg End original mix...what is it?
not a remaster? |
These were the original LP mixes that were reissued by ReR a few years back. Prior to that there were alternative mixes of Leg End, Unrest, and In Praise of Learning that were issued by East Side Digital in the early 1990s. I've only heard the two versions of In Praise of Learning and I can attest that they are quite different.
Edited by Padraic - November 22 2009 at 10:05
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Snow Dog
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Posted: November 22 2009 at 09:39 |
This Henry Cow Leg End original mix...what is it?
not a remaster?
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Snow Dog
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Posted: November 22 2009 at 09:31 |
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I have asked in the past... it will take me a while to find the answer (I know is was No, but I can't remember the reason) |
Ok...meanwhile I'll get in touich with the reviewers.
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Dean
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Posted: November 22 2009 at 09:28 |
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I have asked in the past... it will take me a while to find the answer (I know is was No, but I can't remember the reason)
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Snow Dog
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Posted: November 22 2009 at 08:03 |
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I understand Dean, but is a long and bothersome process. Can't M@x come up with something so you can move them?
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Dean
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Posted: November 22 2009 at 07:46 |
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We just need to ask those people who reviewed them to resubmit their reviews to the proper ablum. I'm not so bothered by the ratings only as several are duplicated on both versions.
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Posted: November 22 2009 at 06:59 |
I'll check it out later!
EDIT.
Just realised that I noticed this a few days ago myself. Problem is reviews again.
But it is such a shame. Ruins the dicography completely.
Edited by Snow Dog - November 22 2009 at 07:05
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LiquidEternity
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Posted: November 21 2009 at 22:57 |
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Because I don't know where else to put these (and because the original intent of the thread wouldn't hurt to be bumped), there are three duplicate studio albums on Henry Cow's page--and they only had four studio albums in the first place.
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=608
I'm sure plenty of people have seen this before, and some may have commented. Are they staying for any good reason? I think they should be consolidated with the original release pages. I'm willing to do the modification for the albums' track listing and release notes if someone with proper pull does the rest of the legwork (provided, of course, that existing reviews don't bar them from doing so).
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Posted: October 30 2009 at 07:23 |
LiquidEternity wrote:
Also, The Flower Kings have two entries for The Rainmaker, one being an illegitimate listing of a deluxe edition.
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I think I already reported this, same problem though.
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LiquidEternity
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Posted: October 29 2009 at 21:01 |
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Also, The Flower Kings have two entries for The Rainmaker, one being an illegitimate listing of a deluxe edition.
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LiquidEternity
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Posted: October 28 2009 at 18:58 |
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Just curious if anything is happening here. It's messing with my OCD!
Also, I would vote to put in the EPs/singles/fan club/etc. category another listing, something like "alternate versions." That way, English copies of PFM's releases don't confuse the heck out of everybody who doesn't speak Italian in addition to their English--and that way the Roine Stolt Mixes will have somewhere they actually belong.
I have lots of mildly helpful but likely incredibly problematic ideas to share. Sorry.
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Dean
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Posted: September 28 2009 at 02:51 |
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^ Just noticed that we couldn't move some of the reviews and ratings even if the facility were there - some people have reviewed/rated both versions.
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