Should Be Toto in PA?

No. Toto in my opinion is an A.O.R. band.

Logan wrote: Boston certainly has had much support for inclusion in Prog-Related due to the first LP.

The second too.  Boston for PA!

I've read that quote before -- very good point, Raff.

{Irrelevant, but what I've wished with prog-related (and particularly proto-prog which I consider a much more important category) was a diverse and reasonably well-balanced representation of bands/artists related to the various "progressive" movements listed in the archives, but this would involve a different way of approaching the categories.  I think it could turn this into a much better research site. It's too mainstream-oriented, I feel.}

lucas wrote: Well, if ASIA, Magnum and GTR are in PA, I don't see why TOTO would not be here. TOTO are much more divese and complex than ASIA. But there would be a lot more AOR artists to add : O'Ryan, Leroux, Life on mars, Heart...

I don't know that Asia would be here were it not for the musicians involved -- ditto for GTR.  I've hears some Magnum, but don't remember them.  While consistency is important, it should be noted that the conditions for PR entry are more stringent now.

I'm not sure that musically-speaking, any of those should be here. And I'm not sure when they were added, if the definition was in place then, as it states in Prog Related:

"We specify the word MUSICAL because simple performance of a determined instrument in a Prog or mainstream band is not justification enough to include an artist, no matter how virtuoso he/she may be, Prog Archives has to evaluate their compositional work because the music is what determines the characteristics of a band or an artist."

A lot of acts were added in the early days before the proper teams were in place that would not make the cut now.

Boston certainly has had much support for inclusion in Prog-Related due to the first LP.  

I thought Toto was already in prog archives.  Isn't this a Toto album?

Probably not eclectic just aired the thought
but as for their relation to Crossover prog they fit the Prog mould if you compare them to bands like Alan Parsons Project and ELO their 4 albums from 93 to falling in Between is clearly made other

 an Progressive aproach Kingdom of Desire have the eery, hounting sound over it, verry heavy at times, grate atmospheres, some instrument parts which shows off their techincal power as well as outstanding composisions and arrangements and the songs flow  so well the trancendece between the Intro, verse chorus is so well done. it is less synth driven but the layers of sound on this album gives you the chills, the most metal sounding toto album, hard rock, heavy prog, jazz fuison and long constructed art rock (Wings of Time, the title track, Only You and How many times)

Tambu is more organic sounding but all the songs on this album is made out of the new aproch for the bands ano 90s with more longer songs, not so melodic drivven more Organ and rhodes pianos, exploration of differents styles, Jazz/fusion, heavy metal, funk, even Hip hop, art rock and other styles the same grate arrangements. deeper lyrics,

Mindefields is labeld as Neo prog on  Wikipedia (but you dont need too relate to much on that you only need to listen to the album)
many of the songs here is verry rich on texture, layerd sound, could be compared to bands like Marillion and Arena, some also more Prog Metal like Better World, its a 14 track long album and the album vere most styles of rock is presented,

Falling in Between their last album starts with a bang with the splenid title track (which blends Dream Theater with more mideleastern, Daying on my Feet is  Jazz/fusion track, Bottom of your Soul is art rock and the rest of the album follows this with technical and melodic music with rich istrumentation, solos, exprementation and varied in styles

aginor wrote: but also Eclectic is one suited place to have them

Toto. In Eclectic.

Over my dead, eyeless, green, mould-covered body.

i saw a page where they mentiond Toto together with here http://www.wayango.com/genres/rock-art-rockexperimental-neo-prog/ i that makes that Totos music certenly have influenced som Progressive rock geners, i also strongly beleave they also have had a foot in influencing traditional Progressive Metal like Queensryche and Dream Theater.
 
Neo Prog

The subgenre relies very much on clean, melodic and emotional electric guitar solos check
combined with modern, lush, floating and atmospheric keyboards. check
 The main musical influences on the neo-prog genre are Genesis, Yes, Camel, Toto and Pink Floyd. indeed

just pinpoint on some cases witch makes Toto influencal on Neo Prog


Edited by aginor - September 07 2009 at 14:55

then this poll's useless