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    Posted: March 16 2010 at 21:37
Originally posted by Soul Dreamer Soul Dreamer wrote:

A very recent album: Gazpacho's Tick Tock is based on the book "Wind, Sand and Stars" of Antoine de Saint-Exupery.


Since it's not mentioned in the list above, I'm going to post it again because it's a great album...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 15 2010 at 18:36
Shadow Circus' "Project Blue" is based on Stephen King's The Stand, and "Journey of Everyman" is based on "The Talisman" by Stephen King/Peter Straub.

And the song "Shadow Circus", is based on Ray Bradbury's Something Wicked This Way Comes.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 15 2010 at 17:15
Italian band Minstrel has 2 albums, first Faust based on the famous book by Goethe and Ahab based on the Moby Dick classic by Melville. The Box has recently released Le Horla , a famous de Maupassant masterpiece . Eidolon's dreamland based on Edgar Allan Poe (many other bands chose EAP). Oldfield's Songs from Distant Earth (Arthur C Clarke) , Gazpacho's Tick Tock on Antoine de St-Exupery . Inquire's Melancholia (JP Sartre)  and Latte e Miele with Passio Secundum Mattheum from that ole Bible . Wink
 
the Tolkien jobs are way too obvious LOL  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 15 2010 at 16:46
"Methuselah's Children" by Moon Safari is based on the novel of the same name by Robert A. Heinlein.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2010 at 16:57
A summary + some additions

Tolkien:
Marillion
Camel (Nimrodel, The Procession, The White Rider)
Bo Hansson
Rick Wakeman
Rush (Rivendell)
Jon Anderson (In Elven Lands: The Fellowship)
Ainur
Glass Hammer
Nazgul
Archangel (The Akallabeth)
Ainur

Asimov:
Alan Parsons (I Robot)
Hawkwind (Robot)
Frameshift (An Absence of Empathy)

Ayn Rand:
Rush (2112, Anthem, The Trees)

Paul Gallico:
Camel (The Snow Goose)

Frank Herbert:
Dun (Arrakis, Acoustic Fremen)
Toto (Dune)

Leon Tolstoi:
Yes (Gates of Delirium)

Herman Hesse:
Yes (Close to The Edge)
Kansas (Journey from Mariabronn)
Marillion (Misplaced Childhood)

Mark Twain:
Rush (Tom Sawyer)

The Bible:
Genesis
Aphrodite's Child (666)
Jesus Christ Superstar
Various Artists (La Biblia)

George Orwell:
Pink Floyd (Animals)
Rick Wakeman (1984)
Metamorfosi (Then All Was Silent)
Hugh Hopper (1984)
Anthony Phillips (1984)
David Bowie (Diamond Dogs)

Mao Zedong:
Matching Mole (Little Red Record)

Paramahansa Yogananda:
Yes (Tales from Topographic Oceans)

Sir Arthur C. Clarke:
Pink Floyd (Childhood's End)
Tempano (Childhood's End)

Edgar Alan Poe:
Alan Parsons (Tales of Mistery and Imagination)

Jonathon Coes:
Hatfield & the North (The Rotters Club)

Sir Arthur Conan Doyle:
Nolan & Wakeman (The Hound of the Baskervilles)

Dante Alighieri:
Metamorfosi (Inferno)
Tangerine Dream (Purgatorio (Dante Alighieri - La Divina Commedia))
Lacrimosa (Inferno)
Brassè (Dante's Inferno)
Dante
Fondeira (Dante, at last)
Il Castello Di Atlante (Malebolge)
Various Artists Concept Albums (Inferno the Divine Comedy, Purgatorio The Divine Comedy)
Echolyn (Mei)

Richard Dawkins:
Frameshift (Unweaving the Rainbow)

Jules Verne:
Rick Wakeman (Jurney To The Center of The Earth)
Nemo

Bram Stoker:
PFM (Dracula)

Alexandre Dumas:
Vanden Plas (Christ 0)

Lewis Carrol:
Neuschwantein (Alice in Wonderland)
The Amorphous Androgynous (Alice in Ultraland)
Chick Corea (The Mad Hatter)
Shadowland (Mad as a Hatter)
The Incredible String Band (The Mad Hatter's Song)
Touchstone (Mad Hatters)
Bill Bruford (Fainting in Coils)
Annie Haslam (Annie in Wonderland)
Yes (We Have Heaven)
Peter Hammill (This side of the looking glass)
Nolan & Wakeman (Jabberwocky)

Thomas Eliot:
King Crimson (The Deception of the Thrush)

Goethe:
Faust
Aton's (Dr. Faust)
Art Zoyd (Faust)

H. G. Wells:
Jeff Wayne (The War of the Worlds)
Eloy
Robert Fripp (H. G. Wells)
Ammon Duul II (HG Well's take off)
Rick Wakeman (Time Machine)

Pablo Neruda:
Los Jaivas (Alturas De Macchu Picchu)

Nietzsche:
Museo Rosenbach (Zarathustra)

Ray Bradbury:
Solaris (Marsbeli Kronikak)
Hawkwind (Fahrenheit 451)

William Shakespeare:
Steve Hackett (Midsummer Night's Dream)
Genesis (Cinema Show)
Il Volo (Essere o non essere? Essere, essere, essere!)
Lana Lane (Lady Macbeth)
Henry Cow (some music for a performance of The Tempest recycled in some of their early albums)

Richard Bach:
Transatlantic (Bridge across forever)

Jorge Luis Borges:
Montefeltro (Nel Laberinto)
Genesis (Squonk)

Homer:
Genesis (The Cinema Show)
King Crimson (Islands)
Eloy (End of an Odyssey)
Vangelis (Odissey)
XII Alfonso (Odyssees)
Symphony X (The Odyssey)

Plato:
Eloy (Ocean)
Pallas (Rise and fall, Atlantis)

Claude Vorilohn (AKA Rael):
Genesis (The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway)

John Steinbeck:
Gentle Giant (The moon is down)
Camel (Dust and Dreams)

Oscar Wilde:
Dorian Gray
Il Ritratto Di Dorian Gray
Cherry Five (The Picture of Dorian Grey)

Andy Tillison :
The Tangent (Not As Good as the Book)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2009 at 04:20
Hawkwind whave worked many books into their music. "Damnation Alley" is based on the novel of the same title by Roger Zelazny. The album "The Chronicle of the Black Sword" is based on Michael Moorcock's "Elric of Melnibone" cycle. "Steppenwolf" is based on the novel of the same title by Hermann Hesse. "Fahrenheit 451" is obviously based on the book of the same name by Ray Bradbury. "Robot" is based on the robot stories by Isaac Asimov, especially his three laws of robotics. And I am pretty sure there are a lot more which just don't come to my mind right now.
Robert Calvert's solo album "Hype" is made up of fictitious songs by Tom Mahler, the main character of his novel "Hype".


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2009 at 03:42
No mention so far of  that  'Brain Salad Surgery' was largely based on the book 'Colossus' by Dennis Feltham Jones. A book that heavily influenced Lake and Sinfield. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2009 at 01:26
Here is what i know:

Yes:
Close To The Edge Siddhartha
Gate Of Delirium War & Peace
Tales From Topographic Oceans was inspired by footnotes in The Autobiography of a Yogi

Rush:
The name of Anthem and the basis for 2112 come from Anthem
Rivendell and The Necromancer are influenced by The Lord of The Rings
Xanadu is influenced (and used almost direct quotes) from the poem Kubla Khan; or, A Vision in a Dream: A Fragment
A Farewell to Kings gets its name from A Farewell to Arms
The Trees comes from a comic strip Neil Peart once read
Tom Sawyer obviously gets its name from Tom Sawyer

Pink Floyd:
Childhood's End by Pink Floyd got it's name from Childhood's End
Animals by Pink Floyd is based on Animal Farm
The Piper At The Gates of Dawn lends its name from the 7th chapter in The Wind In The Willows

Others:
666 by Aphrodite's Child The Book of Revelation
The Snow Goose by Camel is an interpretation of the book of the same name
Wind & Wuthering by Genesis alludes to Wuthering Heights
Apocalypse in 9/8 from Supper's Ready by Genesis makes reference to The Book of Revelation and other biblical things (ex. Magog)
The Power And The Glory by Gentle Giant is based on the book of the same name
Several songs by Led Zeppelin (some of their more complex stuff) makes reference to The Lord of The Rings





Edited by Red Ace - August 20 2009 at 01:30
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2009 at 10:42
So I meant to put a picture of Ulver's Themes From William Blake's The Marriage Of Heaven and Hell.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2009 at 23:24
Now, could someone please explain the relationship between Alan Parson's "I robot" and Asimov's book, apart from the title. I have read the book and I own the album, and paid attention to the lirics, but I just can't find the connection. I think I read there is another earlier book with the same title "I robot", from another author, perhaps the album is based on that other book.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2009 at 04:28

Czeslaw Niemen sang several poems by the great polish poet Cyprian Kamil Norwid. The most obvious song is the epic "Bema pamieci zalobny rapsod".

 
 
 
His fellow, Marek Grechuta, released many songs with lyrics taken from poems of famous polish poets : Adam Mickiewicz, Juliusz Slowacki, Julian Tuwim, Stanislaw Wyspianski, Stanislaw Ignacy Witkiewicz.
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 10 2009 at 20:37
Several Gentle Giant songs mention characters from Francois Rabelais' Gargantua and Pantagruel. Tales from Topographic Oceans wins the award for most music based on the least words, as it was based on a footnote in the Autobiograhpy of a Yogi by Paramahansa Yoganada. Roncevaux by Van der Graaf Generator is based on the epic Franch poem La Chanson de Roland (Song of Roland). A Whiter Shade of Pale is loosely based on The Miller's Tale from The Canterbury Tales. Salad Days (Are Here Again)  comes from Antony and Cleopatra by Shakespeare. Rick Wakeman has albums based on The Lord of the Rings and Journey to the Center of the Earth. I am the Walrus makes reference to the work of Lewis Carrol.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2009 at 15:19
Should I have heard all the referred Pink Floyd albums/music before seeing The Wall the movie?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2009 at 15:09
Originally posted by Hercules Hercules wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Hercules Hercules wrote:

Originally posted by TGM: Orb TGM: Orb wrote:

The Snow Goose seems most obvious (I haven't read it). 


Yet you've reviewed the album!
How can you possibly give an informed appraisal if you haven't read the book on which it's based???

Quite easily. he listened to the album.


Brilliant!

So you would review the film of Lord of the Rings without reading the trilogy first, would you, thus having no idea whatsoever how well the film interpreted the book?? You could do it, but noone in their right mind would regard your review very seriously. "I enjoyed/didn't enjoy (delete as appropriate) this film even though I had absolutely no idea what it was about and whether the characters were accurately portrayed!" Or Bridehead Revisited. Or Skellig. Or any other great book that has been filmed. You just can't do it credibly.

Without reading Gallico's novella, you can't have a clue about the structure, moods and images Camel portray in their music, which is why many of the reviews of The Snow Goose are frankly so laughable.


Now, I appreciate that my review is not absolutely valuable. I appreciate that the album will be doing things I don't understand. However, I think the majority of people reading the reviews will be interested in the perceived musical quality of the album rather than its relationship to the book it's based on. In the same way that there are a score of folks around here who've given reviews to Italian albums they know and love musically without understanding the lyrical content and certainly without the sort of familiarity with the language required to appreciate poetry in it. Now, their reviews are almost certainly missing out on one aspect of the album (which presumably wouldn't be hugely important to them anyway), but they're still able to appreciate the quality of the music and that makes their reviews somewhat valuable.

The Snow Goose is something of a unique case in that the album is making a precise effort to match itself to the book, so I can understand the principle here and admittedly I perhaps would, now, have waited to read the book first. On the other hand, the general principle is pretty awkward - can you review Obscured By Clouds as an album without having seen La Vallée? You might say no on principle, but in the context of this being a music site and the overwhelming majority of readers wanting to hear it as an album by Pink Floyd, it'd seem reasonable. Would it be alright to review Selling England By The Pound without an awareness of The Cinema Show's roots in The Waste Land, World Record without a familiarity with the work of Burne-Jones, Blake and Edgar Allen Poe? Reviewing Ulver's Perdition City without knowing that there's a quote in the title track from Kerouac's On The Road? Gentle Giant's Free Hand without visiting Talybont (which I've done, and it added to my appreciation of the song, but still, I wouldn't expect any reviewer to have done it).

In this particular case, I acknowledge it's worth reading the book, and it's on my reading list, but I still don't think that everything in my original review would change because of it.

I think the Lord Of The Rings analogy isn't quite accurate, because the film is condensed at times, altered in terms of its plot (sometimes understandably, at others not so understandably) and therefore isn't aiming to convey the book's character's precisely. It's not exactly the same story, and thus it doesn't need to achieve the same things or reflect characters in the exact same way as the book does. Still, your point concerning The Snow Goose is valid.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2009 at 13:59
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by cobb2 cobb2 wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Animals, by Pink Floyd, is based on Animal Farm, by George Orwell. I have almost no Idea what the book is about, but I love that album.
It isn't based on Animal Farm

But if anyone wants to come back at me and insist that it is. Well I'm not arguing, believe what you want.Smile

No, I believe it was done just because they had purchased a fairlight CMI synth, which could sample anything and play it back on the notes of the keys. Hence the animal noises (sampled) and the animal names of the songs. Wikipedia does quote this as being losely based on Animal Farm, but I can find no references to Orwell's work in the lyrics- just another urban myth

Also Dogs, Sheep and Pigs weren't even the original song titles. Dogs was called Shaking and Grooving (or something, I haven't looked it up.LOL...hang on "Shaking and  Droolin'" maybe?)
 
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Anyway...by changing the songs names to Animals makes a nice theme.Smile


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2009 at 11:29
'The Rotters Club' by Hatfield & the North, based on Jonathon Coes' book of the same name..

'I Robot' by Alan Parson Project, based on the Asimov novel.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2009 at 11:00
^That reminds me of Genesis' Wind & Wuthering that was inspired by The house of four winds and Wuthering Heights (apparently the book ends with the words ...unquiet slumbers for the sleepers in that quiet earth)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2009 at 06:54
I have to mention Kate Bush and numerous songs based on books from the obvious "Wuthering Heights" through "Cloudbusting" and "The Ninth Wave" (sort of).
 
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2009 at 05:09
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by floydispink floydispink wrote:

 

If you review an album like The Snow Goose without having read the book you have a much more objective view on the music. If you have read the book and you disliked it very much, that will probably have a negative effect on the review of the album, while that review should be about the music. The Snow Goose is reviewed 340 times, and I'm sure the biggest part of those reviewers haven't read the book, but those reviews have the same value as the reviews of people who have read the book. You can't make a difference between those groups, as everybody has their own way of writing a review, with or without background information to the album. 

If you have read the book, I'm sure it enhances ones pleasure of the album.

But I insist...an album must stand by its own merits!
 
Not always... I have read The Snow Goose and own the Camel album (okay, who doesn't) but I would not re-read the book for the gold of Croesus while I listen to the album every now and again with sheer pleasure. I could review the album easily without having read the book. Yet my views reverse when it comes to TLotR and the Bo Hansson album - IMO book beats music. Yes I know you can't really say a piece of literature is better than a piece of music and vice versa, but it's an opinion at least.
 
No need to insist. It's true. If you like an album and are inspired enough to read a book afterwards, great. If not, why should you have to? In order to gain an insight into a piece of music you dig already? i don't think so.
 
Oh and I know it's not a book but Queen's The Fairy Feller's masterstroke was more than based on a painting - the entire, extensive lyrics are a description of the work.


Edited by el dingo - July 08 2009 at 05:12
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