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Lodij van der Graaf 
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Posted: July 21 2009 at 06:29 |
 TheLastBaron wrote:
Now with my love for those three albums, should I venture into Tales from Topographic Oceans? I've heard mixed things. |
You have to. But about Tales, some call it Prog's motherlode, some call it motherf**ker  Let's see yours after listening the album by yourself.
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American Khatru
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Posted: July 03 2009 at 05:31 |
prog4evr wrote:
Atavachron wrote:
there are two classic Yes albums that can be difficult; Tales and Relayer, many fans prefer one or the other, some like both.
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Both are an "acquired taste." I acquired my taste for Relayer long before Tales...
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I heard Tales way before I heard Relayer, but I totally reserve my right to say that the truth is I love both. OK, perhaps a small knock to Relayer for "To Be Over", which has a first third that I frankly find sort of lazy sometimes (but then other times I like it), but then again the lyrics even speak to lazing, and even so it all leads to a second two-thirds that's fantastic(!) so I can't really complain. Whereas I find nothing at all wanting in Tales. But again, I love both records. Relayer isn't trying to be Tales (not that that's what anyone was suggestion), because nothing ever will or can.
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 Why must my spell-checker continually underline the word "prog"?
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prog4evr
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Posted: July 02 2009 at 20:38 |
Atavachron wrote:
there are two classic Yes albums that can be difficult; Tales and Relayer, many fans prefer one or the other, some like both.
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Both are an "acquired taste." I acquired my taste for Relayer long before Tales...
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Posted: July 02 2009 at 07:07 |
meptune wrote:
TheLastBaron wrote:
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Now with my love for those three albums, should I venture into Tales from Topographic Oceans? I've heard mixed things. |
Of course you should venture. Be a crazy man, be your own man. Decide for yourself, then report back to us! |
WORD...
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Blacksword
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Posted: July 02 2009 at 04:33 |
You can imagine my surprise when I heard TFTO, considering my first experience of Yes, as a fledgling progger, was 90125!! I was just getting into prog and had no real idea what to expect from album to the next.
TFTO wrestles with CTTE for my third favourite Yes album, behind Fragile and GFTO. It's mainly on the strength of 'The Revealing Science of God' which is my all time favourite Yes track.
You must check this album out! 
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Posted: July 02 2009 at 02:41 |
TheLastBaron wrote:
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Now with my love for those three albums, should I venture into Tales from Topographic Oceans? I've heard mixed things. |
Of course you should venture. Be a crazy man, be your own man. Decide for yourself, then report back to us!
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"Arf, she said"
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American Khatru
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Posted: July 01 2009 at 06:28 |
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^ Aaaaah, right. Followed by, "There's someone / to tell you..." Got it. The part I was talking about was the return reference to that earlier music, which moment you would agree is one of the greatest nods to symphonists ever to take place in rock, and the chills it produces, the epic close of the piece, wouldn't have been possible without that earlier section. Yeah, those fellas were pretty good.
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Why must my spell-checker continually underline the word "prog"?
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Posted: July 01 2009 at 06:13 |
American Khatru wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
I like to sing the lyrics really loud in the bathroom.
THEY MOVE FAST
THEY TELL ME
BUT I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE
THAT I CAN FEEL IT
I sang half of Ritual in the loo tonight.
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Please understand, I'm not writing this to be a corrective jerk. (Actually Epi, your posts are among the ones I find most enjoyable, and your serious love of this album is something I understand and share  .) But that last lyric is incorrect (if you're talking about that moment near the close of Revealing where Anderson sings over Wakeman) and should read, "they really mean to."
I wouldn't post such a thing at all ever if it wasn't for a funny fact that makes that one lyrical moment stick in my head perhaps more that any other.
I grew up pretty poor, but my brother had a vinyl record collection of great music that I listened to religiously, almost all of which was this stuff which would later come to be called prog rock. An easy favorite of mine, deeply meaningful to me then as now, was Tales. But the record was getting old, tight money prevented the thought of replacing it, and the record developed a bad scratch that became a skip. It would go...
THEY MOVE FAST
THEY TELL ME
BUT I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE
THEY REALLY MEAN TO (skip) MEAN TO (skip) MEAN TO (skip) MEAN TO (skip) MEAN TO (skip) MEAN TO (skip) MEAN TO (skip) MEAN TO (skip) MEAN TO (skip) MEAN TO (skip) MEAN TO (skip) MEAN TO (skip) ...
 Whenever I listen to the CD now, and that part comes, I think of that skip. I remember making a tape of it for carrying around (so I could geek out in public and not just at home!). The skip was on the tape too, about five skips before I succesfully nudged the needle past that point and into Howe's little volume pedal accents that follow. That further reenforced the skip in my mind, almost as if it was a part of the song. Like, Jon really can't believe they mean to!
Anyway, man is that album the greatest!
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No offense taken, friend...
...but you're wrong. 
You see, Anderson sings that melody more than once. The second time (19:37) is the location of the lyrics you mentioned. The lyrics I noted begin at 11:41, the first time that melody is sung.
But I'm glad you got to share that anecdote (there's been more than one time that a ruined copy of a beloved song ingrained something like that into my memory).
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American Khatru
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Posted: July 01 2009 at 05:37 |
Epignosis wrote:
I like to sing the lyrics really loud in the bathroom.
THEY MOVE FAST
THEY TELL ME
BUT I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE
THAT I CAN FEEL IT
I sang half of Ritual in the loo tonight.
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Please understand, I'm not writing this to be a corrective jerk. (Actually Epi, your posts are among the ones I find most enjoyable, and your serious love of this album is something I understand and share .) But that last lyric is incorrect (if you're talking about that moment near the close of Revealing where Anderson sings over Wakeman) and should read, "they really mean to." I wouldn't post such a thing at all ever if it wasn't for a funny fact that makes that one lyrical moment stick in my head perhaps more that any other. I grew up pretty poor, but my brother had a vinyl record collection of great music that I listened to religiously, almost all of which was this stuff which would later come to be called prog rock. An easy favorite of mine, deeply meaningful to me then as now, was Tales. But the record was getting old, tight money prevented the thought of replacing it, and the record developed a bad scratch that became a skip. It would go... THEY MOVE FAST
THEY TELL ME
BUT I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE
THEY REALLY MEAN TO (skip) MEAN TO (skip) MEAN TO (skip) MEAN TO (skip) MEAN TO (skip) MEAN TO (skip) MEAN TO (skip) MEAN TO (skip) MEAN TO (skip) MEAN TO (skip) MEAN TO (skip) MEAN TO (skip) ... Whenever I listen to the CD now, and that part comes, I think of that skip. I remember making a tape of it for carrying around (so I could geek out in public and not just at home!). The skip was on the tape too, about five skips before I succesfully nudged the needle past that point and into Howe's little volume pedal accents that follow. That further reenforced the skip in my mind, almost as if it was a part of the song. Like, Jon really can't believe they mean to! Anyway, man is that album the greatest!
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Why must my spell-checker continually underline the word "prog"?
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Atavachron
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Posted: June 30 2009 at 21:04 |
Epignosis wrote:
I like to sing the lyrics really loud in the bathroom.
THEY MOVE FAST
THEY TELL ME
BUT I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE
THAT I CAN FEEL IT
I sang half of Ritual in the loo tonight.
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I think that may be a Billy Squire song
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J-Man
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Posted: June 30 2009 at 21:03 |
Epignosis wrote:
Padraic wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
I like to sing the lyrics really loud in the bathroom.
THEY MOVE FAST
THEY TELL ME
BUT I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE
THAT I CAN FEEL IT
I sang half of Ritual in the loo tonight.
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I can imagine the two us getting drunk on beer and getting weird looks at the bar.
GETTING OVER OVERHANGING TREES!
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We could meet some environmentalists.
"We must do something to protect the trees!"
Me: "AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHGH LET EM RAPE THE FOREST...*hick*.....they might stand and leave em, you know what I'm sayin..."
Pat: "Clearly...let's go home."
Me: "That's to be home, ya git..."
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J-Man
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Posted: June 30 2009 at 21:00 |
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Anyway, that album is very controversial. I personally like it, but not everybody does. I'd say go for it. It doesn't hurt to try it.
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Epignosis
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Posted: June 30 2009 at 20:59 |
Padraic wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
I like to sing the lyrics really loud in the bathroom.
THEY MOVE FAST
THEY TELL ME
BUT I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE
THAT I CAN FEEL IT
I sang half of Ritual in the loo tonight.
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I can imagine the two us getting drunk on beer and getting weird looks at the bar.
GETTING OVER OVERHANGING TREES!
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We could meet some environmentalists.
"We must do something to protect the trees!"
Me: "AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHGH LET EM RAPE THE FOREST...*hick*.....they might stand and leave em, you know what I'm sayin..."
Pat: "Clearly...let's go home."
Me: "That's to be home, ya git..."
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J-Man
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Posted: June 30 2009 at 20:58 |
progkidjoel wrote:
Atavachron wrote:
there are two classic Yes albums that can be difficult; Tales and Relayer, many fans prefer one or the other, some like both
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I LOVE both...
After those, I'd reccomend DRAMA and GOING FOR THE ONE, but there isn't a YES album I don't love... |
Not even Open Your Eyes?? 
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Padraic
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Posted: June 30 2009 at 20:52 |
Epignosis wrote:
I like to sing the lyrics really loud in the bathroom.
THEY MOVE FAST
THEY TELL ME
BUT I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE
THAT I CAN FEEL IT
I sang half of Ritual in the loo tonight.
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I can imagine the two us getting drunk on beer and getting weird looks at the bar. GETTING OVER OVERHANGING TREES!
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Epignosis
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Posted: June 30 2009 at 20:52 |
Padraic wrote:
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LastBaron? Hello? 
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Maybe he's listening to it right now!
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f**k!
Beat me to the punch! 
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Epignosis
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Posted: June 30 2009 at 20:52 |
Atavachron wrote:
LastBaron? Hello?
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He's probably just getting finished listening to Tales from Topographic Oceans.
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Padraic
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Posted: June 30 2009 at 20:51 |
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Epignosis
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Posted: June 30 2009 at 20:51 |
I like to sing the lyrics really loud in the bathroom.
THEY MOVE FAST
THEY TELL ME
BUT I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE
THAT I CAN FEEL IT
I sang half of Ritual in the loo tonight.
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Atavachron
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Posted: June 30 2009 at 20:50 |
LastBaron? Hello?
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