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Topic: Turntable HELP
Posted: June 27 2009 at 01:24

i don't really want a new turntable i really like the one i have and i got it for nothing so i wouldn't mind putting out a bit to get it fixed

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Posted: June 25 2009 at 12:26

Repairing it would probably cost more than it is worth, esp. as most repair shops charge a £30 fee just to have a look at it, i would suggest investing in a new turntable..?

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Posted: June 15 2009 at 18:50

alright thank for the help I'm gonna have to make a trip to the city and find a repair shop cause i don't want to break it trying to fix it myself (like the last TT i had)

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Posted: June 15 2009 at 18:48

Then I would guess that the sensor circuit needs adjustment.

Unfortunately this is not something I can help with from 5000 miles away, so I suggest you find a competent local electronics/hi-fi engineer and get them to do it.

I cannot see a simple way of disabling the auto-return to make it a manual (which would not fix your turntable, but would make it usable).

You can download the service manual from here: http://www.vinylengine.com/library/sony/ps-x6.shtml

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Posted: June 15 2009 at 18:11

Usually between tracks but sometimes part way through, mostly depends on how far through the side it is, rarely happens before a thirds and then in the last third it's guaranteed to happen, i was listening to The Yes Album just now trying to figure out what was going on and it happened between each track and half way through Starship trooper which is the last track on side 1 I tried multiple other albums and it was usually when the last or second last track started or when it hits the last third of the album

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Posted: June 15 2009 at 17:52

The auto-return is normally activated by the stylus moving into the run-out groove at the centre of the album. This works by having a vane connected to the tone-arm mechanism that passes between a lamp and a photo-sensor - on the run-out groove this vane moves quickly resulting in a large change in the amount of light hitting the sensor - this rapid change is detected by the electronics, which then operates a solenoid to lift the arm and return it to the park position using a system of cams. The start/stop button overrides this automatic run-out groove detection.

It sounds like the detector is incorrectly adjusted, so it is lifting too early - Is it lifting in the gaps between tracks, or part way through a track?

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Posted: June 15 2009 at 17:21

So guys and gals i need some tech help, I've tried some other forums but none were of help, so down to it. I have a Sony PS-X6 TT that has a broken auto return mechanism, I think. it just return the tone arm in the middle of songs as if the side was over it's really starting to get on my nerves and there are no repair shops within a resonable distance. so anybody have any ideas?

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Hitting_Singularity1 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Newbie Joined: June 14 2009 Location: CANADA Status: Offline Points: 6	Topic: Turntable HELP Posted: June 27 2009 at 01:24
	i don't really want a new turntable i really like the one i have and i got it for nothing so i wouldn't mind putting out a bit to get it fixed
	Robert (Hitting The Singularity)

mystic fred Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 13 2006 Location: Londinium Status: Offline Points: 4252	Posted: June 25 2009 at 12:26
	Repairing it would probably cost more than it is worth, esp. as most repair shops charge a £30 fee just to have a look at it, i would suggest investing in a new turntable..?
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Hitting_Singularity1 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Newbie Joined: June 14 2009 Location: CANADA Status: Offline Points: 6	Posted: June 15 2009 at 18:50
	alright thank for the help I'm gonna have to make a trip to the city and find a repair shop cause i don't want to break it trying to fix it myself (like the last TT i had)
	Robert (Hitting The Singularity)

Dean Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575	Posted: June 15 2009 at 18:48
	Then I would guess that the sensor circuit needs adjustment. Unfortunately this is not something I can help with from 5000 miles away, so I suggest you find a competent local electronics/hi-fi engineer and get them to do it. I cannot see a simple way of disabling the auto-return to make it a manual (which would not fix your turntable, but would make it usable). You can download the service manual from here: http://www.vinylengine.com/library/sony/ps-x6.shtml
	What?

Hitting_Singularity1 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Newbie Joined: June 14 2009 Location: CANADA Status: Offline Points: 6	Posted: June 15 2009 at 18:11
	Usually between tracks but sometimes part way through, mostly depends on how far through the side it is, rarely happens before a thirds and then in the last third it's guaranteed to happen, i was listening to The Yes Album just now trying to figure out what was going on and it happened between each track and half way through Starship trooper which is the last track on side 1 I tried multiple other albums and it was usually when the last or second last track started or when it hits the last third of the album
	Robert (Hitting The Singularity)

Dean Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575	Posted: June 15 2009 at 17:52
	The auto-return is normally activated by the stylus moving into the run-out groove at the centre of the album. This works by having a vane connected to the tone-arm mechanism that passes between a lamp and a photo-sensor - on the run-out groove this vane moves quickly resulting in a large change in the amount of light hitting the sensor - this rapid change is detected by the electronics, which then operates a solenoid to lift the arm and return it to the park position using a system of cams. The start/stop button overrides this automatic run-out groove detection. It sounds like the detector is incorrectly adjusted, so it is lifting too early - Is it lifting in the gaps between tracks, or part way through a track?
	What?

Hitting_Singularity1 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Newbie Joined: June 14 2009 Location: CANADA Status: Offline Points: 6	Posted: June 15 2009 at 17:21
	So guys and gals i need some tech help, I've tried some other forums but none were of help, so down to it. I have a Sony PS-X6 TT that has a broken auto return mechanism, I think. it just return the tone arm in the middle of songs as if the side was over it's really starting to get on my nerves and there are no repair shops within a resonable distance. so anybody have any ideas?
	Robert (Hitting The Singularity)