Steven Wilson vs. Thom Yorke

camilleanne wrote: Steven Wilson.

Ditto

They both sound very similar imo, i yust got my first porcupine tree album "in absentia" and it sounds very much like a radiohead album. Cant realy say which one is the best but it seems Wilson is the more productive, and working alot with other artists.

Leningrad wrote: 1800iareyay wrote: belatarr wrote: Uh...how can you tell between a good solo and a bad solo, other than you like one and you don't like the other one?  I mean, to really be able to make a review about something you must have fundaments and well I don't see many here. I think you meant to say fundamentals, because fundaments denote the buttocks or anus. Which is actually quite apt given your posting.  We prog rock fans have fallen into this abysmal place where we judge and rate things based on what we like and what we don't....IMHO reviews and opinions here are mostly based on opinions and are quite subjective EXTRA! EXTRA! READ ALL ABOUT IT! GENIUS LINKS OPINIONS TO OPINIONS! REVIEWS BASED ON PERSONAL TASTE! EXTRA! EXTRA! Oh and I called Thom Yorke an ass because I saw them 2 weeks ago live here in Mexico City and I've never seen an artist care less for his audience (except maybe Bob Dylan). Before he played Creep he said to us "Have a nice life." in such a tone a lot of us got pissed.  Many hardcore fans that I talked to hated the show. I saw Gabriel last week and he introduced all of the songs in spanish and with warmth and dedication.  And put on a hell of a show. Oh poor you. You went to see a band that makes moody music and you were offended that the band was moody. It's a song they hate to play, that they've spent their careers rebelling against, but they play it anyway because fans like it. And at least over here MOST of the people at the Radiohead concert around me didn't even know the songs and the one that got them the most excited was Creep.  In my opinion it proves that Radiohead (I'm not saying they are not good) is fab band supported by people who pretend to like it because it's the coolest band out there. They've been million sellers for a decade and a half. The only way that constitutes a "fad" is if you're comparing it to European history.  Oh and would like to hear all the members of PA that can blow away Steven Wilson's guitar playing please.  Give me a link to their bands.  If they are better then they must be real hidden prog gems... "I don't have to lay an egg to know that it tastes good." - Pauline Kael

+100

Steven Wilson, simply because of his versatility as a song-writer, producer and musician. Thom Yorke - I liked his vocal style in early Radiohead albums but now is too falsetto for my liking. I honestly cannot see how TY can better SW as an all-round musician!!!

Thom Yorke by a landslide.  He's more interesting vocally, miles ahead lyrically, and I don't know what he contributes to Radiohead's music in terms of songwriting, but I'm sure I prefer that contribution to anything that Steven Wilson has done, even if he's done it on his own.

To boil it down to its simplest components, Thom Yorke's name is associated with much, much better music.  Porcupine Tree are a decent enough band, but Radiohead stand miles above them (and most other bands, for that matter).

belatarr wrote:   IMHO reviews and opinions here are mostly based on opinions and are quite subjective.  In my post I tried to state facts.  Most reviews here are lkle "This albums is bad, there is no good song bla bla blac" but there is NEVER a reason to support such claims other than personal taste.  It kinda saddens me because it all loses credibility.   In my opinion it proves that Radiohead (I'm not saying they are not good) is fab band supported by people who pretend to like it because it's the coolest band out there.

Petrovsk Mizinski wrote: 1800iareyay wrote: belatarr wrote: Uh...how can you tell between a good solo and a bad solo, other than you like one and you don't like the other one?  I mean, to really be able to make a review about something you must have fundaments and well I don't see many here. I think you meant to say fundamentals, because fundaments denote the buttocks or anus. Which is actually quite apt given your posting.  We prog rock fans have fallen into this abysmal place where we judge and rate things based on what we like and what we don't.... IMHO reviews and opinions here are mostly based on opinions and are quite subjective EXTRA! EXTRA! READ ALL ABOUT IT! GENIUS LINKS OPINIONS TO OPINIONS! REVIEWS BASED ON PERSONAL TASTE! EXTRA! EXTRA! Oh and I called Thom Yorke an ass because I saw them 2 weeks ago live here in Mexico City and I've never seen an artist care less for his audience (except maybe Bob Dylan). Before he played Creep he said to us "Have a nice life." in such a tone a lot of us got pissed.  Many hardcore fans that I talked to hated the show. I saw Gabriel last week and he introduced all of the songs in spanish and with warmth and dedication.  And put on a hell of a show. Oh poor you. You went to see a band that makes moody music and you were offended that the band was moody. It's a song they hate to play, that they've spent their careers rebelling against, but they play it anyway because fans like it. And at least over here MOST of the people at the Radiohead concert around me didn't even know the songs and the one that got them the most excited was Creep.  In my opinion it proves that Radiohead (I'm not saying they are not good) is fab band supported by people who pretend to like it because it's the coolest band out there. They've been million sellers for a decade and a half. The only way that constitutes a "fad" is if you're comparing it to European history.  Oh and would like to hear all the members of PA that can blow away Steven Wilson's guitar playing please.  Give me a link to their bands.  If they are better then they must be real hidden prog gems... "I don't have to lay an egg to know that it tastes good." - Pauline Kael 1800iareyay just pwned belatarr

One of the best pwns since the ultimate pwn. 

1800iareyay wrote: belatarr wrote: Uh...how can you tell between a good solo and a bad solo, other than you like one and you don't like the other one?  I mean, to really be able to make a review about something you must have fundaments and well I don't see many here. I think you meant to say fundamentals, because fundaments denote the buttocks or anus. Which is actually quite apt given your posting.  We prog rock fans have fallen into this abysmal place where we judge and rate things based on what we like and what we don't.... IMHO reviews and opinions here are mostly based on opinions and are quite subjective EXTRA! EXTRA! READ ALL ABOUT IT! GENIUS LINKS OPINIONS TO OPINIONS! REVIEWS BASED ON PERSONAL TASTE! EXTRA! EXTRA! Oh and I called Thom Yorke an ass because I saw them 2 weeks ago live here in Mexico City and I've never seen an artist care less for his audience (except maybe Bob Dylan). Before he played Creep he said to us "Have a nice life." in such a tone a lot of us got pissed.  Many hardcore fans that I talked to hated the show. I saw Gabriel last week and he introduced all of the songs in spanish and with warmth and dedication.  And put on a hell of a show. Oh poor you. You went to see a band that makes moody music and you were offended that the band was moody. It's a song they hate to play, that they've spent their careers rebelling against, but they play it anyway because fans like it. And at least over here MOST of the people at the Radiohead concert around me didn't even know the songs and the one that got them the most excited was Creep.  In my opinion it proves that Radiohead (I'm not saying they are not good) is fab band supported by people who pretend to like it because it's the coolest band out there. They've been million sellers for a decade and a half. The only way that constitutes a "fad" is if you're comparing it to European history.  Oh and would like to hear all the members of PA that can blow away Steven Wilson's guitar playing please.  Give me a link to their bands.  If they are better then they must be real hidden prog gems... "I don't have to lay an egg to know that it tastes good." - Pauline Kael

1800iareyay just pwned belatarr

[QUOTE=Leningrad]

From now on, we will not review based on our own opinions of the album; we will judge it by set traits that we, as a unanimous collective, decide to be worthy of judging music by.

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Relax man it's just a discussion in a forum.  Anyways since your inability to discuss without getting your teenage anger on the way I'll leave the discussion as it is.