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The T 
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Posted: October 29 2008 at 14:42 |
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Best album of 2008 so far, in my book... which is not as good as their book...
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sleeper
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Posted: October 28 2008 at 21:10 |
 LiquidEternity wrote:
Contrary to what Sleeper says, I'd go ahead with Not as Good as the Book. I find it much better in terms of composition, sound, layout, and just about everything. Plus, aside from In Earnest, the song Four Egos, One War is probably their best 20+ minute track ever.
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Same goes for The Full Gamut, IMO, but the first disc feels a bit tired to me.
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Urs Blank
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Posted: October 28 2008 at 10:19 |
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Not as Good as the Book is close to a masterpiece.
It could be one if only Tillison could sing on key!
In fact they should either make an all instrumental album or find a correct voice to sing Tillison's lyrics to get the recognition they deserve.
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Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it.
Salvador Dali.
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The Prognaut
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Posted: October 27 2008 at 13:23 |
LiquidEternity wrote:
Contrary to what Sleeper says, I'd go ahead with Not as Good as the Book. I find it much better in terms of composition, sound, layout, and just about everything. Plus, aside from In Earnest, the song Four Egos, One War is probably their best 20+ minute track ever. |
I totally second that LE. If someone wanna get in "The Tanget" ASAP, for me too there's no point in wasting precious minutes of listening on previous releases if you feel like startin' up in the right side. And NAGATB is the one to go with!!!
Cheers
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break the circle
reset my head
wake the sleepwalker
and i'll wake the dead
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LiquidEternity
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Posted: October 27 2008 at 13:02 |
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Contrary to what Sleeper says, I'd go ahead with Not as Good as the Book. I find it much better in terms of composition, sound, layout, and just about everything. Plus, aside from In Earnest, the song Four Egos, One War is probably their best 20+ minute track ever.
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sleeper
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Posted: October 27 2008 at 06:19 |
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^Personally, I'd go for their first, The Music that Died Alone, before any others as its still their best IMO, In Darkest Dreams is an excellent epic. After that I'd go for the new one then The Wourld that we Drive Through last as it seems to suffer from "Flower Kings Syndrome"; too much music, not enough materiel.
The live album, Going Off on One is also great.
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Roj
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Posted: October 27 2008 at 05:22 |
I only have A Place In The Queue by these guys. I really like that album, and have been wondering which would be the best to get next. Sounds like NAGATB would be a good choice.
My favourites from APITQ are the 2 epics (surprise surprise) so which of theirs would you folks recommend I get, the latest or the earlier ones with Roine.
Sorry about the sidetracking here, but comments would be welcome!!!
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The Prognaut
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Posted: October 26 2008 at 22:19 |
Roland113 wrote:
I have to agree with E-Dub and Crimson, Andy Tillison shouldn't be singing. I loved the beginning of the album right up until he started singing. I can't understand how musicians of that quality can ignore the fact that he sang the first song off key.
Unfortunately, the repeated vocal gaffes make the album unlistenable for me.
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Sure, Tillison should keep improving on his singing technique but I do recognize he's moved on from past works where he sounded off even more out of tune. Still, IMHO I believe instrumentation on NAGATB surpasses all this little lacks of attention and detailing.
Cheers
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break the circle
reset my head
wake the sleepwalker
and i'll wake the dead
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Roland113
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Posted: October 25 2008 at 17:29 |
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I have to agree with E-Dub and Crimson, Andy Tillison shouldn't be singing. I loved the beginning of the album right up until he started singing. I can't understand how musicians of that quality can ignore the fact that he sang the first song off key.
Unfortunately, the repeated vocal gaffes make the album unlistenable for me.
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-------someone please tell him to delete this line, he looks like a noob-------
I don't have an unnatural obsession with Disney Princesses, I have a fourteen year old daughter and coping mechanisms.
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sleeper
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Posted: October 25 2008 at 15:49 |
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Good, but nothing special. I like A Place in the Queue and The Music that Died Alone better.
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Walker
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Posted: October 25 2008 at 13:57 |
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I liked A Place In The Queu better... but it's still a very good album.
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E-Dub
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Posted: October 25 2008 at 09:46 |
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^^His voice is just uninspiring, so the music saves it for me. He doesn't have the worst voice, but just very nasally and flat. When he gets on those really dramatic moments he'll end each phrase with a growl. Maybe don't take the mic away from him completely, but give Jakko some more mic time.
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Queen By-Tor
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Posted: October 24 2008 at 23:03 |
I'll admit again that I love Tillison's voice. Don't know what everyone hates about it  . Although DIY Surgery was... er... odd - was Tillison even singing on that one? Anywhat, yes! Mr. Reingold is a fantastic bass-man, I can really appreciate him in all his works 
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Drew
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Posted: October 24 2008 at 22:56 |
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If the vocals are listenable, unlike "A place in the Queue" then it MUST be a step in the right direction
Edited by Drew - October 24 2008 at 22:58
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tszirmay
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Posted: October 24 2008 at 22:45 |
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I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth.
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Queen By-Tor
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Posted: October 24 2008 at 22:39 |
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tszirmay
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Posted: October 24 2008 at 22:38 |
My review states that it is a killer, so then it is . Far from an eternal masterpiece but frankly, as soon as Jonas Reingold shows up, I start drooling.. A very, very good 5 star job . 
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Chicapah
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Posted: October 24 2008 at 19:50 |
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Wish you would have had an option for being good and pretty special but not a true masterpiece. That would have been my vote.
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fusionfreak
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Posted: October 24 2008 at 18:46 |
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Music for lifts.Certainly not uplifting music!Great musicians without soul and ideas!
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LiquidEternity
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Posted: October 24 2008 at 18:40 |
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Yep. Love this album. One very solid release. Totally got me into the Tangent.
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