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splyu 
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 Topic: If you could get rid of one?
Posted: October 18 2008 at 18:23 |
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With a friend of mine (the same one I cited in the Stranglers thread, incidentally), we had a saying, "Anything can be Prog."
That is not to say, of course, that "Everything is Prog"... more like "Any style of music can potentially be turned into prog". And has, too. "Prog" is a logical evolution to any style of music. Any style will and some point reach its "prog" state; then next you know, it will have a "roots revival".
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The Doctor
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Posted: October 18 2008 at 16:34 |
 Ghost Rider wrote:
There are much more pressing matters in my life that command my indignation . |
Damn. You beat me to it Raff. 
By the way, just noticed in another thread that wedding bells are in the air for you and Micky. Congratulations to both of you. I know it's been a long wait, and it's nice to see that once in awhile, love really does conquer all. 
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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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Chris S
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Posted: October 18 2008 at 16:30 |
Ghost Rider wrote:
None of those listed (though I might take up Chris's suggestion and go with DT ...) - they were all added for a reason, though people may disagree with it. As you all know by now, I am a very open-minded person, and I would never lose sleep, let alone throw a tantrum, over ANY controversial addition to the PA database. However, if I had to pick up something, I'd say Triumph have a very, very flimsy relation to prog (if even that), and neither Steeleye Span nor Fairport Convention (which I both like a lot) strike me as particularly prog-related. That said, I'm perfectly happy to have them here. There are much more pressing matters in my life that command my indignation. |
DT was just a bit of a wind up..  , but I still don't get them. However your last line is a classic and one of the best points made on this site....
"...There are more pressing matters in my life that command my indignation...."
So very true, sometimes hard to do, but very very true
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MovingPictures07
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Posted: October 18 2008 at 15:36 |
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Out of these, Metallica or the Beatles.
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E-Dub
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Posted: October 18 2008 at 15:01 |
^^As much as Steely Dan took a hit when they were added, I'm surprised they're not here. I voted for Sabbath, but have resigned to the fact that there will always be bands that I don't agree with. If anything, I'm a HUGE Steely Dan fan, so now that they're on it means we can talk about them more often. Right, Micky?  I listened to Alive In America earlier in the week and I still love that one. The live version of "Green Earrings" just rules. Now they need to release a double live disc. E
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micky
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Posted: October 18 2008 at 13:45 |
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oh yes.. I have been easy on Rush and the fanboys recently have I. hmmm.. now that Raff walks among us again... maybe it's time to kick them out as well hahahha
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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rushfan4
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Posted: October 18 2008 at 13:37 |
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I suppose that I should just keep quiet, but Micky, nice of you to leave us Rush fanboys alone.
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micky
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Posted: October 18 2008 at 13:36 |
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hahahhaha.. of course you are hahahha
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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Jared
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Posted: October 18 2008 at 13:33 |
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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micky
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Posted: October 18 2008 at 13:29 |
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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The Quiet One
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Posted: October 18 2008 at 13:19 |
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micky
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Posted: October 18 2008 at 13:19 |
Logan wrote:
Absolutely, in fact it's become something of a Progressive Rock/ progressive music hybrid. I support Stockhausen, Coltrane, Glass etc. in the archives, though I would like for there to be a new category for influential to Prog (Prog simply meaning here for convenience sake all of the categories considered Prog here) key non-rock progressive music artists -- the problem is, where does one start and where does it end from a both temporal and stylistic perspective?
The parameters of what can be considered for archives inclusion have expanded/ changed, and I don't see that as a bad thing as long as the music is well-categorised. There must be limits, but I think this site could benefit from much more progressive music being represented (of course the focus should be on rock, or at least rock-related music that shares traits, and an approach to music that defined the Progressive Rock movement).
Incidentally, My Bloody Valentines was in at one time, I believe, but was removed from the database.
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I'm sure it is not lost on anyone that other prog sites list artist such as those... 
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Raff
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Posted: October 18 2008 at 13:17 |
None of those listed (though I might take up Chris's suggestion and go with DT ...) - they were all added for a reason, though people may disagree with it. As you all know by now, I am a very open-minded person, and I would never lose sleep, let alone throw a tantrum, over ANY controversial addition to the PA database. However, if I had to pick up something, I'd say Triumph have a very, very flimsy relation to prog (if even that), and neither Steeleye Span nor Fairport Convention (which I both like a lot) strike me as particularly prog-related. That said, I'm perfectly happy to have them here. There are much more pressing matters in my life that command my indignation .
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micky
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Posted: October 18 2008 at 13:17 |
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The Quiet One
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Posted: October 18 2008 at 13:02 |
micky wrote:
it is a discussion we have had just recently... this site stopped long ago being a classic prog only site.... as Raff noted... if you go on the narrow 'classic' definition of prog... fully 50% of the database could be eliminated. the site has evolved into a prog rock/progressive rock hybrid. It can't go back... can only go forward..
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Maybe because the site is called ProgArchives, not ProgRockArchives, then it means that this site started with the first stuff that was called Prog, then kept on PROGressing until we will reach to New Wave, Punk, Hardcore, Hip Hop, Blues and any other genre you imagine off
PA, keep on PROGressing!!
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Logan
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Posted: October 18 2008 at 13:00 |
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Oh, thanks Raff, that's right, my mistake. I'm still waking up. I am familiar with both.
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Raff
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Posted: October 18 2008 at 12:50 |
No, Greg, that was My Dying Bride ... Similar name, though different music!
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Logan
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Posted: October 18 2008 at 12:25 |
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Absolutely, in fact it's become something of a Progressive Rock/ progressive music hybrid. I support Stockhausen, Coltrane, Glass etc. in the archives, though I would like for there to be a new category for influential to Prog (Prog simply meaning here for convenience sake all of the categories considered Prog here) key non-rock progressive music artists -- the problem is, where does one start and where does it end from a both temporal and stylistic perspective?
The parameters of what can be considered for archives inclusion have expanded/ changed, and I don't see that as a bad thing as long as the music is well-categorised. There must be limits, but I think this site could benefit from much more progressive music being represented (of course the focus should be on rock, or at least rock-related music that shares traits, and an approach to music that defined the Progressive Rock movement).
Incidentally, My Bloody Valentines was in at one time, I believe, but was removed from the database.
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Jared
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Posted: October 18 2008 at 12:21 |
Angelo wrote:
That last one is indeed missing from the list. Each band included here was included for a reason, which makes this poll a bit senseless. Oh well....
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quite right, Angelo... 
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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micky
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Posted: October 18 2008 at 11:55 |
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it is a discussion we have had just recently... this site stopped long ago being a classic prog only site.... as Raff noted... if you go on the narrow 'classic' definition of prog... fully 50% of the database could be eliminated. the site has evolved into a prog rock/progressive rock hybrid. It can't go back... can only go forward..
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