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Topic: Calprog October 10-11, 2008 Posted: March 24 2009 at 15:06 |
Garion81 wrote:
Glad none of you came or were even interested even reading about it.
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I'm interested in reading about it!
I'd be interested in going to it too, but trouble is I'm in the wrong continent. :-(
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Posted: December 11 2008 at 22:49 |
Yo Bri... I ordered the Official 2008 Bootleg. Cool.
IZZ' cover of "Trilogy" is on it! Woo Hoo!
I wish they could have included Echolyn's "Never the Same" though.
Edited by Dan Bobrowski - December 11 2008 at 22:50
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Posted: October 28 2008 at 17:08 |
Raff wrote:
I really hope we'll be able to make it to the next Calprog, even if we live on the other side of the country. Unfortunately, as to now I'm still stuck here (family problems), but I definitely will be in the US for Thanksgiving. I've even started collecting turkey and pumpkin pie recipes! |
Hope to see you there next year Raff!!
You missed a very good one this time but Jim will cook something up for next year.
I certainly don't want to coach an already accomplished cook (at least that is what I understand from Michael) but whatever reciepie you use for the Turkey makes sure you keep some broth in the pan (I use veggie broth) and baste often (3 times an hour at least) to keep the turkey moist. It will just melt in your mouth.
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Posted: October 28 2008 at 17:02 |
rushfan4 wrote:
Sorry, Brian. I read your original review when you posted it. I didn't respond because I didn't really have anything to say. It was a good review. I think that if I were in your shoes I probably would have enjoyed the Sylvan portion of the show, but they are one of my favorite newer acts. I don't really find there to a sameyness problem that you do. (I would have inserted a shrugs shoulders emoticon if there was one). I've been gushing non-stop in the forums over IZZ, Echolyn, and the latest Presto Ballet album, The Lost Art of Time Travel, so I am quite certain that I would have been in prog heaven with this show. It is too bad that PB had let go of their keyboard player, because in my opinion he was definitely a marked improvement from the debut album. I apologize for not posting earlier. I suppose that time has healed, and I have gotten over my jealousy of not having attended that show too. |
I was just so excited from the show and the party afterward I just couldn't understand how anyone else couldn't have been.
Forgive me my passion.
Sylvan was OK and I don't want to seem overly critical. It wasn't the musicso much but the tone and tempo that casued the sameness through the set. Start off with lots of mid range tones and not enough tonal dynamics high and low. For instance the guitar which should have been louder was way down in the mix and I could barely hear him. It may have been because he chose a tone closer to to what the keyboard was using and they do a lot of riffs that are harmonies between the guitar and keys much the way Genesis uses except they sound the same in Sylvan. There were a couple of his solos that if I hadn't been looking at him wouldn't have known he was playing them. Then had to strain to hear him through the bass and keys. The mix wasn't bad because I was at their sound check prior to the show and they were very happy with it. They just choose to understate the guitar and I think that detracts what they are trying to do. I am not in a small minority in my thinking from that show but there were many there also who were huge fans and I do respect that. However I am trying to be honest without being negative. I think the band was very professional and for sure great people.
I also think their placement between IZZ and Echolyn might have something to do with it. If they had opened the fest or played just after Presto Ballet it would have been better in my mind. IZZ and Echolyn were absolutely on fire and should have played IZZ then Echolyn PB was good but really want to see them again with a keyboard player. Kurt wrote some good music and he is very passionate about it so I hope to see them again with a full band.
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Posted: October 28 2008 at 14:41 |
Sorry, Brian. I read your original review when you posted it. I didn't respond because I didn't really have anything to say. It was a good review. I think that if I were in your shoes I probably would have enjoyed the Sylvan portion of the show, but they are one of my favorite newer acts. I don't really find there to a sameyness problem that you do. (I would have inserted a shrugs shoulders emoticon if there was one). I've been gushing non-stop in the forums over IZZ, Echolyn, and the latest Presto Ballet album, The Lost Art of Time Travel, so I am quite certain that I would have been in prog heaven with this show. It is too bad that PB had let go of their keyboard player, because in my opinion he was definitely a marked improvement from the debut album. I apologize for not posting earlier. I suppose that time has healed, and I have gotten over my jealousy of not having attended that show too.
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Posted: October 28 2008 at 14:35 |
I really hope we'll be able to make it to the next Calprog, even if we live on the other side of the country. Unfortunately, as to now I'm still stuck here (family problems ), but I definitely will be in the US for Thanksgiving. I've even started collecting turkey and pumpkin pie recipes!
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Posted: October 28 2008 at 14:27 |
fusionfreak wrote:
Garion 81 it's a two day event by the end of october:There is the Hotel de la gare near Verviers'train station.
This is rather cheap(50-55 bucks for singles)but the owner seems not to like people who only book for 2 or
3 days,he prefers 1 week booking.Nevertheless if you book 4 or 5 months before.I don't think there will be problems.The 2 day ticket is about 60 bucks.I wrote a short sum up of the event in the European tours section.Thanks for the advice! |
Thanks for the Info FF. Maybe I will be fortunate to see this someday.
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Posted: October 27 2008 at 17:37 |
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Yeah, Brian, They opened with Georgia Pines and continued to melt the house down for the rest of the show.
Man On Fire is a damn good band. The guitarist/bassist is a monster and I dig his fretless work. They are working on a new one, or so I've heard. They've got a lot of RUSH in their sound, but I'd put them on the bill with Salem Hill... IMHO,
I would have been happy if IZZ and Echolyn were the only two bands playing... much longer sets though! |
I will check them out. I just found out that the members of that group also own 10T records and that one them opened up a state of the art studio in South Carolina.
I anyone want so hear some samples of the live music Jim had a few in his podcast from his radio show. None are complete but they are good:
Select the 10/25/2008 show
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Posted: October 26 2008 at 06:58 |
Garion 81 it's a two day event by the end of october:There is the Hotel de la gare near Verviers'train station.
This is rather cheap(50-55 bucks for singles)but the owner seems not to like people who only book for 2 or
3 days,he prefers 1 week booking.Nevertheless if you book 4 or 5 months before.I don't think there will be problems.The 2 day ticket is about 60 bucks.I wrote a short sum up of the event in the European tours section.Thanks for the advice!
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Posted: October 21 2008 at 16:12 |
Yeah, Brian, They opened with Georgia Pines and continued to melt the house down for the rest of the show.
Man On Fire is a damn good band. The guitarist/bassist is a monster and I dig his fretless work. They are working on a new one, or so I've heard. They've got a lot of RUSH in their sound, but I'd put them on the bill with Salem Hill... IMHO,
I would have been happy if IZZ and Echolyn were the only two bands playing... much longer sets though!
Edited by Dan Bobrowski - October 21 2008 at 16:14
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Posted: October 17 2008 at 11:04 |
^ Yup. In their encore. They started out with Never the Same then Brittany then a Jam with their sound man coming up and trading chops with Brett then Airbag.
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Posted: October 17 2008 at 01:27 |
I would have loved to see Echolyn, even though I'm not a fan of half of their discography. I'm sure I would enjoy seeing the songs I don't particularly care for. Are you saying that they covered "Airbag?"
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Posted: October 16 2008 at 21:21 |
si god wrote:
Wonderful review sir. As a European, I find myself very jealous of everyone who has managed to see Echolyn play live. I understand that their last trip over the pond was not a happy one and as a result they have chosen to stay stateside which is an understandable but crying shame nonetheless. They are one of my favourite bands but by the way you described the event, it sounds as if the whole festival was a great success. You described it beautifully.
Now if only Man On Fire and Echolyn were on the same bill, I'd be on that plane like a shot. But I digress... |
Thanks!
Well this was the first time they had played on the West Coast since 1994 so I can understand your pain. Their performance exceeded my expectations. I have most of their albums and like them enough to give them a spin several times a month but I had no idea the energy those guys had. They had a so so report card from their Nearfest performance earlier this year so I wasn't sure what to expect. They came out an blew the doors down from the start.
Correct me if am wrong Dan but they started with Gergia Pines. That song rocked big time.
Man on Fire. I know very little about them but I am going to check into them.
Echolyn and Izz I might fly to see that.
Edited by Garion81 - October 16 2008 at 21:21
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Posted: October 16 2008 at 18:14 |
Wonderful review sir. As a European, I find myself very jealous of everyone who has managed to see Echolyn play live. I understand that their last trip over the pond was not a happy one and as a result they have chosen to stay stateside which is an understandable but crying shame nonetheless. They are one of my favourtie bands but by the way you described the event, it sounds as if the whole festival was a great success. You described it beautifully. Now if only Man On Fire and Echolyn were on the same bill, I'd be on that plane like a shot. But I digress...
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Posted: October 16 2008 at 15:16 |
fusionfreak wrote:
Garion 81,it's true that this forum sometimes lacks life,but when debate is on it's explosive.The festival must have been nice.I hope someday to go to an american prog festival.Do you know Progrésiste?It's in Belgium 1000 kms far from home.I will be there this weekend.By the way could you suggest me Izz records? |
Is this a one day or two day festival FF? Tell me more about it? Do you have a hotel you convene at? Looks like a good lineup.
For IZZ I would start with My River Flows then I Move those are the best ones and Live at Nearfest is a really solid live CD as well. The other two Sliver of a Sun and Ampersand you could get later to fill in the gaps. They are a fantastic band.
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Posted: October 16 2008 at 08:45 |
awesome.... great review Brian... can't wait to catch next year's show
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Posted: October 16 2008 at 08:40 |
Garion 81,it's true that this forum sometimes lacks life,but when debate is on it's explosive.The festival must have been nice.I hope someday to go to an american prog festival.Do you know Progrésiste?It's in Belgium 1000 kms far from home.I will be there this weekend.By the way could you suggest me Izz records?
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Posted: October 15 2008 at 01:23 |
I thought Calprog was in early summer? I'm always keep missing 'em Anyway, it sounded like a good time.
Edited by KoS - October 15 2008 at 01:23
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Posted: October 15 2008 at 00:08 |
Wow! In three days there is one response and that by the guy who sat next to us? Sorry, but that is why I pretty much have given up on this site as any kind of real correspondence for progressive rock music. Glad none of you came or were even interested even reading about it.
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Posted: October 13 2008 at 23:34 |
Spot on review there Brian, my boy!
IZZ and Echolyn ruled the day. I can't say who I preferred, both bands rocked the house and me. IZZ gets better every time, and Trilogy? Whoa doggy! Smokin'. I wish they played more of that style in their own music. Powerful, over-the-top, self-indulgent ear candy. Sweet.
I'd like to hear what a really good record producer could do for Sylvan. Drop a lot of that mid-range tonal fluff and boost the highs and lows... give the music room to breathe. That wall of sound can actually become painful. I almost walked out a few times, but I kept falling asleep before I could get to my feet. That last funky track was alright. Almost like another band took the stage.
Second row seats were nice, eh Bri! Too bad Laura was on the wrong side of the stage.
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