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thz lzzz 
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Posted: September 24 2008 at 09:17 |
fair enough not being into neurosis but to suggest isis or cult of luna are less boring!? i wonder how much neurosis you have heard? isis are a bland regurgitation of neurosis at the best of times (...of grace).
plus isis veer more into post-rock and neurosis would surely be doom prog rather than prog metal?
i think the trio of vocalists in neurosis are one of the most powerful in extreme music history.
i too am regular disappointed by glam vox, the new dragonforce album would probably be appreciated a lot more by me if it wasn't for the inane and desperately unoriginal wailing over the top, sometimes instrumental is just the most reliable choice.
do mastodon count as prog metal? there are some talented growlers!
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Posted: September 18 2008 at 13:45 |
Dude, I agree with some of the other people on here. Check out the likes of Devin Townsend, P.O.S, Opeth and Riverside. I would add Orphaned Land and Saviour Machine to that list also(mainly because I don't think Eric Clayton doesn't have an 80's sounding voice).
Awsome music and great, great vocals.
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Posted: September 16 2008 at 12:00 |
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Hehe, I think the only singer I've heard who reaches really high notes without sounding familiar or cliché is...Rush's Geddy Lee!
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Posted: September 15 2008 at 03:31 |
Some people like Journey 
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Posted: September 12 2008 at 10:40 |
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Well Dream Theater is a modern day Journey, that's what I've come to realize. So of course they sound 80s, they're still living in the 80s.
And I heard Symphony X before I heard Queensryche, but I agree that Russell Allen sounds a lot like Geoff Tate. In a good way!
Nothing is wrong with sounding like the 80s, it clearly works for Symphony X.
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Negoba
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Posted: September 12 2008 at 09:59 |
One of the things that instantly makes or breaks a band for me is the timbre of the voice. Some of the most popular bands of all time are popular simply because of the distinctiveness of the singer.
The voice you're talking about is the voice pioneered most famously by Bruce Dickinson and Rob Halford, which is a little different than Bon Jovi and Poison and true hair metal. But Labrie and to me more importantly Geoff Tate took that style into prog and as two of the foundation bands for prog metal, it stuck.
Gildenlow has branched out some but to me he's takes from Mike Patton and Geoff Tate, but manages not to sound 80's.
Most of the bands mentioned here are not really prog metal to me, Akerfeld and Devin Townsend produce some of my favorite music these days, but it's not prog metal.
There is a band called Braindance who did an interesting album with significant prog elements before going electronic/goth.
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mono
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Posted: September 12 2008 at 09:24 |
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Progressive Metal bands tend to look for singers who can attain high pitches and have a very wide range.
Most of those singers have and '80's style'.
But few singers like Daniel Gildenlöw still combine wide range and original timber.
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Posted: September 11 2008 at 14:46 |
 ~Rael~ wrote:
I love Opeth. . . and I have never heard any 80s metal sounding lyrics. Unless there is on some of thier eralier stuff.
Pain of Salvation is my favorite band, but I'll check out those others. And I just listened to a track from Canvas Solaris on myspace. It is interesting, for sure.
And Meshuggah. I downloaded one of thier CDs, and couldn't get into it. Not enough meldoy, though the technacality is impressive. |
I can't get into Meshuggah either, not enough melody, and most of the songs sound extremely alike.
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Posted: September 11 2008 at 14:40 |
popeyethecat wrote:
heyitsthatguy wrote:
try King Diamond
he does mid range AND falsetto
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I actually love King Diamond! You know when you like something that goes against everything you usually like?
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sort of it's stupid and really predictable but its addictive at the same time that might be because I hate myself I dunno
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popeyethecat
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Posted: September 11 2008 at 12:31 |
heyitsthatguy wrote:
try King Diamond
he does mid range AND falsetto
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I actually love King Diamond! You know when you like something that goes against everything you usually like?
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heyitsthatguy
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Posted: September 11 2008 at 11:44 |
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try King Diamond
he does mid range AND falsetto
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Posted: September 11 2008 at 00:10 |
topofsm wrote:
I definetely think of it as more power metal than hair metal. I guess it's a bit similar, but I think power metal is more purposefully demanding (And EPIC!!!!) to go with the style, while hair metal is more pop oriented.
Of course, that doesn't mean it doesn't get on peoples' nerves. |
I never thought of it that way. I usually associated it with Bruce Dickinson before I did with... that Dragonforce guy...
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Posted: September 10 2008 at 23:59 |
I definetely think of it as more power metal than hair metal. I guess it's a bit similar, but I think power metal is more purposefully demanding (And EPIC!!!!) to go with the style, while hair metal is more pop oriented.
Of course, that doesn't mean it doesn't get on peoples' nerves.
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MrEdifus
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Posted: September 10 2008 at 23:49 |
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I enjoy the hair-metal style of singing, when it's applied to those types of lyrics. One of the things I look for in vocalists is a lot of range, and the ability to hit the limits of that range while remaining melodic instead of screaming, yet also being high expressive emotionally. (Probably why Geoff Tate is my absolute most favorite vocalist ever...)
But there is a lot of prog-metal that doesn't use that style, as has been mentioned above.
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Posted: September 07 2008 at 17:13 |
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I guess there's a misunderstanding as to what hair metal singing is like. I went straight from hair metal into progressive rock and metal, and the only prog metal bands with "hair metal vocals" (which aren't very different from pop, as most hair /glam metal IS a pop version of metal) are the bands that actually were around in the eighties like Savatage, Queensryche, and Fates Warning, and even then barely so. The only band I can think of off the top of my head with anything similar to hair metal vocals is Shadow Gallery. I'd say LaBrie's vocals are closer to alternative rock than hair metal (that was exactly my first impression upon hearing them for the first time). Symphony X vocals are almost more thrash and neoclassical influenced than hair.
Then again, if you're talking about good hair metal like Scorpions or the prog 80s metal bands listed above, I can see where you're coming from.
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Posted: September 05 2008 at 01:38 |
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true popeyethecat
I guess i did use a bad reasoning. after all, the mass is also buying terd bands like
Nirvana
Slipknot
Mudvayne
good charlot
fall out boy
i mean seriously, those bands suck
Suck suck suck
end of discussion, ignorant, senseless, brainless crap.
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Posted: September 04 2008 at 07:00 |
leifthewarrior wrote:
you will have to admit it does work, or else the mass wouldnt be buying it.
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Not a good way of telling if something works, sadly
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Posted: September 04 2008 at 00:22 |
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Well, i hear what your sayin'. Though i personally like that style, and wish i could sing like that. Unfortunately, i cant. I myself am a singer in a prog band, and i have a low voice. and as far as inspiration goes to accomidate my vocal range. You might try listining to The band falconor.
Anyway, back to your question. I think its just a set style thing, and you will have to admit it does work, or else the mass wouldnt be buying it. Though i disagree with placing Russel allen of symphony x in that catagory, i seen them live and i will say, he has one of the most amaizing voices there is, both vocaly and in range. And their are plenty of more modern prog bands whos singers arnt like that. Take the Flower Kings for instance, or The Frost(which went down a Pop style of singing).
Oh, and dont forget Andromeda;s vocalist( the new one, from the album chimera) He sounds more like some modern rock singer. I like it.
Edited by leifthewarrior - September 04 2008 at 00:25
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Posted: September 03 2008 at 22:32 |
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^A damn fine list of (pretty much) instrumental stuff there.
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Posted: September 03 2008 at 22:08 |
Its discussions like this that point to the reasons that I love bands like:
Canvas Solaris
Dysrhythmia
Behold...the Arctopus
Blotted Science
Gordian Knot
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