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tszirmay 
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Posted: July 08 2008 at 17:02 |
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For those who like Broadsword, don't forget they recorded enough material for a double album in those sessions. The outtakes appeared on the box set 20 Years of JT, and they are every bit as good as what wound up on Broadsword I think. They have also been showing up on classic album remixes and so forth.
Concerning Under Wraps - I like it a lot. "Later That Same Evening" is cool because it covers an entire techno thriller novel in three verses. "Nobody's Car" is a real rocker that captures typical 60's spy movie themes, but in a very complex way that vaguely reminds me of Gentle Giant. And the acoustic version of the song "Under Wraps" is just beautiful. The plugged in version is great too.
Yes, I do like Under Wraps. It's still the second worst Tull album ever though. Catfish Rising is my least favorite Tull album, but I like it too - some of it anyway.
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Finally the allies come out from under the wraps  You got it, governor! Techno spy thriller is spot on. The mood is cold warish (twas the times) and one of the better "new wave" albums of the time. Yes, Yes we know that it was far from the classic folksey Jethro but on ITS OWN MERITS, I enjoyed this album then as much as I do know . So "Stand up and fight coz you know we are right" 
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Weston
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Posted: July 07 2008 at 23:13 |
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For those who like Broadsword, don't forget they recorded enough material for a double album in those sessions. The outtakes appeared on the box set 20 Years of JT, and they are every bit as good as what wound up on Broadsword I think. They have also been showing up on classic album remixes and so forth.
Concerning Under Wraps - I like it a lot. "Later That Same Evening" is cool because it covers an entire techno thriller novel in three verses. "Nobody's Car" is a real rocker that captures typical 60's spy movie themes, but in a very complex way that vaguely reminds me of Gentle Giant. And the acoustic version of the song "Under Wraps" is just beautiful. The plugged in version is great too.
Yes, I do like Under Wraps. It's still the second worst Tull album ever though. Catfish Rising is my least favorite Tull album, but I like it too - some of it anyway.
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The Quiet One
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Posted: July 06 2008 at 21:19 |
febus wrote:
Glad to see quite a few posters like BROADSWORD a lot, i was wondering if i was the only one and was in need of mental health help
Time to punish Pablo, lock him up in a dark room with THE FINAL CUT playing over and over |
lol! Have in mind now, that I like it over The Wall, but that doesn't mean it's better! 
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grahawk
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Posted: June 28 2008 at 03:12 |
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A is an album of two sides. Or at least it was when albums had sides. Side A is great. After Black Sunday it's a very patchy affair and the only other track I like is And Further On. Broadside is my second favourite Tull album after Songs from the Wood and is highly recommended.
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Posted: June 27 2008 at 15:55 |
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Crest of a Knave is an underatted album IMO. Okay it does have an 80's sound but it also contains the excellent Farm on the Freeway.
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Posted: June 23 2008 at 15:32 |
I like Under Wraps a lot. Not bad at all.
A is my favourite and better than Broadsword. More vibrant.
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Alberto Muņoz
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Posted: June 23 2008 at 15:29 |
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febus
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Posted: June 23 2008 at 11:53 |
tszirmay wrote:
Finnforest wrote:
I haven't heard Under Wraps for 20 years, but I remember actually liking some of the songs (ducking....)
And the concert was a blast, I was with a group of about 15 mostly-stoners and poor album or not, we had a REAL good time.
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If you have to duck, let me join you. This album has been a whipping boy for the purists but I liked it then and I like it now.  I also enjoyed the spooky Cold war theme as well, Very similar to Walking in Light which I also get a kick out of. If Under Wraps would have been an Ian Anderson solo album, it would have received way less flak. BAMM! What was that? another rotten EGG or was that a Tormato? Hey, I Liked Thomas Dolby's Golden Age of Wireless , so why blame me? |
In a vibrant tribute to our respected TZIRSMAY , i will give now a spin and a new chance to UNDERS WRAP. I bought it back last year to complete my JTULL collection, but the love affair between me and this CD stopped there .......let see what happens now!!!
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febus
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Posted: June 23 2008 at 11:47 |
Glad to see quite a few posters like BROADSWORD a lot, i was wondering if i was the only one and was in need of mental health help
Time to punish Pablo, lock him up in a dark room with THE FINAL CUT playing over and over |
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Posted: June 23 2008 at 11:20 |
A B Negative wrote:
Finnforest wrote:
I haven't heard Under Wraps for 20 years, but I remember actually liking some of the songs |
but not enought to listen to them in 20 years...
Under Wraps was the first Tull album I bought. Broadsword and A are much better. |
Good point AB!!!! I had it on cassette, just never got around to re-buying on CD, probably never will.
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Passionist
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Posted: June 23 2008 at 10:13 |
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'Tis good, don't worry about that, it's JT, it's good. No really, I was watching the Slipstream DVD which comes with the A cd, inspired by this thread, and yes, it's a great album in my opinion.
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Pyk Owrno Zes
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Posted: June 23 2008 at 06:35 |
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Yeah, I don't care for the 80's electronic stuff, but I can get over it if the music is good.
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Posted: June 23 2008 at 06:33 |
nah, Under wraps is a good album as it is, but still probably second to last on my J-Tull list nevertheless.
About "A". One should probably approach this with the precaution, that the album was originally made by Ian Anderson to be recorded as his first solo album but due to certain circumstances, well, it was after all published as the Jethro Tull album. It's basically got more of those 80s drums and synths that we all know so well, than any other JT album. Basically the new members replaced the old ones who were about to leave anyway, the publishers wanted it to be JT... Broadsword and the Beast is one of my all time favourites. I'm already contemplating on getting my 3rd copy of it after a vinyl and the original cd
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Toaster Mantis
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Posted: June 23 2008 at 05:55 |
I've never heard Under Wraps... should I consider myself fortunate? 
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A B Negative
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Posted: June 23 2008 at 05:53 |
Finnforest wrote:
I haven't heard Under Wraps for 20 years, but I remember actually liking some of the songs |
but not enought to listen to them in 20 years...
Under Wraps was the first Tull album I bought. Broadsword and A are much better.
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"The disgusting stink of a too-loud electric guitar.... Now, that's my idea of a good time."
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Toaster Mantis
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Posted: June 23 2008 at 04:33 |
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I agree about Broadsword and the Beast being Jethro Tull's best eighties album.
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"The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook
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Pyk Owrno Zes
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Posted: June 22 2008 at 23:10 |
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yeah, I like what I've heard from Drama, but nothing after that until maybe Keystudio (I've only heard very little from these).
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tszirmay
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Posted: June 22 2008 at 21:24 |
Finnforest wrote:
I haven't heard Under Wraps for 20 years, but I remember actually liking some of the songs (ducking....)
And the concert was a blast, I was with a group of about 15 mostly-stoners and poor album or not, we had a REAL good time.
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If you have to duck, let me join you. This album has been a whipping boy for the purists but I liked it then and I like it now. I also enjoyed the spooky Cold war theme as well, Very similar to Walking in Light which I also get a kick out of. If Under Wraps would have been an Ian Anderson solo album, it would have received way less flak. BAMM! What was that? another rotten EGG or was that a Tormato? Hey, I Liked Thomas Dolby's Golden Age of Wireless , so why blame me?
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The Quiet One
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Posted: June 22 2008 at 21:04 |
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Finnforest
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Posted: June 22 2008 at 20:55 |
I haven't heard Under Wraps for 20 years, but I remember actually liking some of the songs (ducking....) And the concert was a blast, I was with a group of about 15 mostly-stoners and poor album or not, we had a REAL good time.
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