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    Posted: June 12 2008 at 19:20
Originally posted by Zitro Zitro wrote:

Of the ones I know (I hope I'm not biased), I think Argentina's the proggiest. It is very long for a national anthem (four minutes) with a dynamic classical overture, tempo changes, an instrumental section in the middle and a bombastic finale. There's an instrumental version that sounds way better but I can't find it in youtube.

any other national anthems?

PS: I don't know in what forum to put this in, whether the lounge or 'just for fun'. Free free to move it.


Absolutely, great anthem; I wish it were more symphony oriented, I mean not always been played with that awful military sounding drums.


Edited by electricsilence - June 12 2008 at 19:23
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"God Save the Queen" as played by Gentle Giant.

As to the "Deutschland über alles" part of the German national anthem: Actually it no longer IS a part of the German national anthem (though it appears in the original lyrics of Hoffmann von Fallersleben); on the contrary, it is forbidden to sing that verse in Germany. When these lyrics were written they meant something totally different; there was no united Germany, just a few principalities in which German was spoken. Von Fallersleben wanted these principalities to unite to form Germany, as it finally happened in 1871; he was not of the opinion that Germany is superior to other nations, as the Nazis interpreted this verse.
The first verse of von Fallersleben's poem, in which this passage appears, is never sung. For official purposes always only the third verse of the poem is used, and this third verse is the official national anthem of Germany.
Here the full lyrics of the poem:

Das Lied der Deutschen
Deutschland, Deutschland über alles,
Über alles in der Welt,
Wenn es stets zu Schutz und Trutze
Brüderlich zusammenhält,
Von der Maas bis an die Memel,
Von der Etsch bis an den Belt –
|: Deutschland, Deutschland über alles,
Über alles in der Welt! :|
Deutsche Frauen, deutsche Treue,
Deutscher Wein und deutscher Sang
Sollen in der Welt behalten
Ihren alten schönen Klang,
Uns zu edler Tat begeistern
Unser ganzes Leben lang –
|: Deutsche Frauen, deutsche Treue,
Deutscher Wein und deutscher Sang! :|
Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit
Für das deutsche Vaterland!
Danach lasst uns alle streben
Brüderlich mit Herz und Hand!
Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit
Sind des Glückes Unterpfand –
|: Blüh im Glanze dieses Glückes,
Blühe, deutsches Vaterland! :|
The melody, by the way, is by Joseph Haydn and was used in his so-called "Kaiser quartet". The lyrics sung to the melody began with "Gott erhalte Franz den Kaiser"; they praised the Kaiser of Austria.


Edited by BaldFriede - June 12 2008 at 19:41


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Rhapsody of Fire should write a national anthem... It would be so heroic... We just need a land with dragons though...Tongue.
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In a certain sense, all national anthems are "prog" not only for the music but also for the lyrics that are epic-like ones showing an imaginary and desired land with many exquisite metaphors supplied by different rhymes and unusual and rare words.
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Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

From very (unreliable) memory, I think the Italian anthem has a really bizarre sudden tempo change in the middle which always strikes me as a tad 'proggy'


That's rightClap! It starts with a martial, slowish tempo, and then it suddenly speeds up.... Moreover, it's so pompous and bombastic (and that's just for the music... you should hear the lyricsDead!) that it MUST be progLOL!
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Originally posted by Cheesecakemouse Cheesecakemouse wrote:

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

The old anthem for the Soviet Union was extremely prog...



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BTW, the (relatively) new Russian anthem kept the music unchanged. Only the verse is different.
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Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

The old anthem for the Soviet Union was extremely prog...



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Originally posted by Vince Vince wrote:

Of course, it's Anthem by Rush!

Sorry, bad joke... Embarrassed


If you say Rush I say Deep Purple! Deep Purple - Anthem, well that's proggy!
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Without doubts the Peruvian National Anthem:
 
  1. Created to be played by Symphony Orchestra, not with band
  2. It's a multi part epic, narrates the Peruvian history during18:00 minutes (Of course we only sing one verse, because it would take too long and cassually this an apocriphal verse)
  3. One Central choir and 7 different verses.

You can check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Anthem_of_Peru

And http://www.mindef.gob.pe/menu/historicos/himno/himno.htm the short version sung by Tenor Juan Diego Florez.
 
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Originally posted by Passionist Passionist wrote:

I find the "possibly to be anthem" of Finland very prog. We have a boring now, but there's a petition going, getting a lot of names listed for making Sibelius - Finlandia Hymn as our official national anthem. At least, this time the composer would be Finnish, and the lyricist would be Finnish-speaking. The problem is, most people won't be able to sing it.
 
If that happensa, Finland will officially be the country with the best anthem in the world... I love Sibelius, his 7 symphonies, his violin concerto, KArelia, etc... but "Finlandia" is amazing.., Sometimes it makes me shiver, and I'm not finnish..Tongue... I hope that happens...ClapClap
 
About Germany, yes, I was wrong about the name of the anthem... I was actually confused about the title, as it;'s quite nationalistic..and you've given me the information I needed... But Haydn's melody is great... I use to know all the lyrics, as I studied in a german-oriented school in Quito... (Deutsche Schule Quito)...(I'm not german at all by the way.. that's how things are in southamerica: there are "German schools" or "french schools" or "american schools".... Americans here never understand that concept of internationally-oriented education...)
 
By the way, Ecuador's national anthem, which many people in my country say is "second in the world after La MArsellaise", well, I think it's just an awful march... it sucks...
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Of course, it's Anthem by Rush!
 
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From very (unreliable) memory, I think the Italian anthem has a really bizarre sudden tempo change in the middle which always strikes me as a tad 'proggy'
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I find the "possibly to be anthem" of Finland very prog. We have a boring now, but there's a petition going, getting a lot of names listed for making Sibelius - Finlandia Hymn as our official national anthem. At least, this time the composer would be Finnish, and the lyricist would be Finnish-speaking. The problem is, most people won't be able to sing it.
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Originally posted by aprusso aprusso wrote:

Originally posted by Guzzman Guzzman wrote:

Originally posted by iguana iguana wrote:

actually, now it's “einigkeit und recht und freiheit“ (unity, justice, liberty) – the one you
mentioned (Deutschland Uber Alles) is from the nazi times (same melody though)
You're both right and wrong. The German national anthem is the "Deutschlandlied". The lyrics were written by Hoffmann von Fallersleben in 1841. The first verse starts with the words "Deutschland, Deutschland uber alles", the third verse with "Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit". During the time of the nazi-regime only the first verse was sung, nowadays the third verse is sung and was declared national anthem after the reunification. The melody, by the way, is "borrowed" from the "Kaiserhymne", which Joseph Haydn wrote for Austrian emperor Franz II.
"Auferstanden aus Ruinen" indeed was the national anthem of the former GDR. Interesting enough the lyrics of both of the national anthems can be sung to the melody of the other and vice versa.
 
See? this complexity is VERY proggy...
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The South African anthem is very nice, it has excellent vocal arrangements. I love the version with African percussion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APGZiMcDvYY&feature=related
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Originally posted by Guzzman Guzzman wrote:

Originally posted by iguana iguana wrote:

actually, now it's “einigkeit und recht und freiheit“ (unity, justice, liberty) – the one you
mentioned (Deutschland Uber Alles) is from the nazi times (same melody though)
You're both right and wrong. The German national anthem is the "Deutschlandlied". The lyrics were written by Hoffmann von Fallersleben in 1841. The first verse starts with the words "Deutschland, Deutschland uber alles", the third verse with "Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit". During the time of the nazi-regime only the first verse was sung, nowadays the third verse is sung and was declared national anthem after the reunification. The melody, by the way, is "borrowed" from the "Kaiserhymne", which Joseph Haydn wrote for Austrian emperor Franz II.
"Auferstanden aus Ruinen" indeed was the national anthem of the former GDR. Interesting enough the lyrics of both of the national anthems can be sung to the melody of the other and vice versa.
 
See? this complexity is VERY proggy...
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Originally posted by iguana iguana wrote:

actually, now it's “einigkeit und recht und freiheit“ (unity, justice, liberty) – the one you
mentioned (Deutschland Uber Alles) is from the nazi times (same melody though)
You're both right and wrong. The German national anthem is the "Deutschlandlied". The lyrics were written by Hoffmann von Fallersleben in 1841. The first verse starts with the words "Deutschland, Deutschland uber alles", the third verse with "Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit". During the time of the nazi-regime only the first verse was sung, nowadays the third verse is sung and was declared national anthem after the reunification. The melody, by the way, is "borrowed" from the "Kaiserhymne", which Joseph Haydn wrote for Austrian emperor Franz II.
"Auferstanden aus Ruinen" indeed was the national anthem of the former GDR. Interesting enough the lyrics of both of the national anthems can be sung to the melody of the other and vice versa.


Edited by Guzzman - June 11 2008 at 05:54
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John Lennon's 'Nutopian National Anthem' from Mind Games. It's about 2 seconds of silence...The run-off groove.Now that's prog.

Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb.
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Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Original thread! Though there's not enough material to keep it alive for long.


La Marseillaise is the best. As is Deutschland Uber Alles.



actually, now it's “einigkeit und recht und freiheit“ (unity, justice, liberty) – the one you
mentioned is from the nazi times (same melody though)

Originally posted by aprusso aprusso wrote:

Deutsche Demokratik Republik
   

“auferstanden aus ruinen und der zukunft zugewandt“ (risen from the ruins
and headed for the future) – now THAT makes me laugh...
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The old anthem for the Soviet Union was extremely prog...
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