Avantasia

Rocktopus wrote: Sometimes one can judge a book by its cover: And pleeease, no more suggestions looking like this. Just thinking about what this sounds like makes me ill.

I just silently add an idea: if many bands such as Avantasia will be asked to add, the admins could make a "Power metal" category. I know, that power isn't prog, but it's the most prog-related metal genre (and classic heavy metal, maybe).

MikeEnRegalia wrote: ^ so far the PMT has been avoiding/postponing prog related metal additions ... and for good reasons, at least I used to think. At PA I've learned to expect the unexpected, but I must say I'm really floored by this decision.   Why? There are even less prog bands here... And the admin team has reached that decision. As much as I respect the Admin team's decision to reject bands i consider should be here, I also will respect their decision to include bands here. BTW: I know all the Avantasia albums - in my opinion they're not only not prog, but also not even prog related. Stretching it a little, they could be prog-RELATED.... In the end, they write operatic-power-metal.. One can see (I CAN, at least) how the Admin team reached such a decision. I know that some disagree ... but the same is true for Metallica (there are many supporters and many who oppose it). And I decided to shut up and respect the admin's and MAx decisions to not include this derserving band. The same I'll do with Avantasia. Only a few days ago I was talking about what can make music prog (or prog related) in the Coldplay thread ... unfortunately Avantasia is one of those bands/projects which use prog elements to embellish their music without actually making it progressive. Have you not seen that they were approved for PROG RELATED? The same "is not prog, is prog-related" motto that we always use to justify other bands, we have to use it here. That such a band is chosen over more worthy additions simply frustrates me.Imagine your luck Mike... you DO have a website where you do as you please. I don't. And I'm happy with the way things are done. Well, if we add Avantasia then we should also be prepared to add Iced Earth, Dragonforce, Sonata Arctica or Fairyland. Iced Earth is not even related to related to prog-metal-related. They're thrash with Iron-Maiden-related COVERS (not music)..... Dragonforce is power metal without the operatic elements of Avantasia (even though played at 94837493 mph)........ Sonata Arctica deserves to be here due to their UNIA album which in my view is 90% full prog-metal......... And Fairyland, welll......what the hell is Fairyland?   By the way, when you were talking about more-deserving prog-related metal bands, please add AMORPHIS to the list... if people only listened to Elegy and Tuonela and not onlt to Tales froma  THousand LAkes, they would be here already....

Scarecrow was the album that they reviewed.  They gave it pretty high marks too if I remember correctly.  I think that overall it got 14 1/2 out of 16 stars.  I have only heard one Edguy album so I don't have much of a reference point, but the idea that Jorn Lande, Kai Hansen, and Alice Cooper all contributed kind of intrigues me.  I just might have to give it a shot.

I have no comment based on this band's music as I had never heard of them until this morning.  However, I heard of them while reading the CD/DVD reviews in the current edition of Progression, the quarterly progressive rock journal, which is my external source of prog rock news outside of this site.  I believe that they did label them as hard rock/progressive power metal.  The review did make it sound quite interesting with the list of other singers who participated on the album.  I know that that isn't much more helpful than the above comments dismissing them because of the album cover but I thought that I would share that little tidbit.

^ so far the PMT has been avoiding/postponing prog related metal additions ... and for good reasons, at least I used to think. At PA I've learned to expect the unexpected, but I must say I'm really floored by this decision.

BTW: I know all the Avantasia albums - in my opinion they're not only not prog, but also not even prog related. I know that some disagree ... but the same is true for Metallica (there are many supporters and many who oppose it). Only a few days ago I was talking about what can make music prog (or prog related) in the Coldplay thread ... unfortunately Avantasia is one of those bands/projects which use prog elements to embellish their music without actually making it progressive. That such a band is chosen over more worthy additions simply frustrates me.

Well, if we add Avantasia then we should also be prepared to add Iced Earth, Dragonforce, Sonata Arctica or Fairyland.

MikeEnRegalia wrote: ^ Is there any explanation why this band is cleared for addition and other, more deserving metal bands for prog related are not? So far Iron Maiden are the only prog-related metal band in the archives ... now it's Iron Maiden and Avantasia. Am I the only one who can't see any logic behind it?

Avantasia is currently approved for prog-related.

@admins: Couldn't you get Max to add a nice facepalm emoticon to the current ones?

Moving this thread where it belongs: Suggest New Bands/Artists.

And while I'm at it: it would be interesting to see bands suggested in the forum judged by their music, not by whether or not one likes the album cover. I have no problem with the cover being discussed, but it seems these things are only brought up here in a negative sense, and we have enough of that in these forums already.