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    Posted: May 01 2008 at 21:40
I'm probably getting a MacBook for college this summer.  It's kind of crazy, even the basic white MacBook has 4x the amount of RAM as my current PC, the upgraded has 8x as much.  The black looks cool too, but I don't think it justifies spending more money just for the colour.  For the same amount of money (well technically, my parents are paying for most of it as a graduation/birthday presentWink), I could buy an IBM or something with better specs, but using other peoples Macs and talking to them really makes me want to make the switch.  The last computer game I purchased was Black & White so I'm not much of a PC gamer.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 01 2008 at 15:19
Originally posted by bluesynight bluesynight wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

~$1000 notebook which comes with Intel Core 2 Duo, 2 GB RAM and NVidia/AMD graphics chip.

Of course if you're into games which also come out on consoles the way to go would be console + cheaper notebook.Smile


actually my friend got a nice DELL a week ago, yes you can buy  one for 1000$ and play games, but we checked allot of laptops in this price area, and i can tell you that if you buy one with a nice video cards its mean that it would be heavier, and the battery dies really fast, and i mean REALLY fast.

 consoleErmm, not a bad ideaSmile. deepens on your taste, personally i love only RPG's and quests, so i dont like consoles.


Well I'll certainly be getting Neverwinter Nights 2, as I'm also an RPG fan.  I know it's not supposedly amazing, but I like a lot of the fan mode modules on Neverwinter Nights, so I'm hoping there's some goodies.  Plus it's 3.5e rules, without the addition of made-up Bioware feats.

Anyhow, I don't know what spec it is, but I know they said that it's been designed with SLI in mind, so it's not that behind the times.

I'm the same with consoles.  RPGs are better on PC and I know a lot of people seem to play RPGs on laptops, for some strange reason.

As I said though, apart from the first NWN and NVM 2, I don't know what other games I'll be playing, except maybe Oblivion.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 01 2008 at 13:43

I'm thinking about getting a Toshiba Satellite laptop.  Does anyone have any experience with this brand?

Probably 3G RAM, and the most storage I can find since I plan on dual-booting XP and Ubuntu.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 01 2008 at 13:35
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

~$1000 notebook which comes with Intel Core 2 Duo, 2 GB RAM and NVidia/AMD graphics chip.

Of course if you're into games which also come out on consoles the way to go would be console + cheaper notebook.Smile


actually my friend got a nice DELL a week ago, yes you can buy  one for 1000$ and play games, but we checked allot of laptops in this price area, and i can tell you that if you buy one with a nice video cards its mean that it would be heavier, and the battery dies really fast, and i mean REALLY fast.

 consoleErmm, not a bad ideaSmile. deepens on your taste, personally i love only RPG's and quests, so i dont like consoles.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 01 2008 at 12:31
Originally posted by bluesynight bluesynight wrote:



in my opinion buying laptop for gaming is really stupid.


Depends on which games you want to play. Not all games are that demanding in terms of graphics hardware ... for example you can play Half Life 2, Counter-Strike: Source or even Team Fortress 2 on any ~$1000 notebook which comes with Intel Core 2 Duo, 2 GB RAM and NVidia/AMD graphics chip.

Of course if you're into games which also come out on consoles the way to go would be console + cheaper notebook.Smile

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 01 2008 at 11:34
It's going to have plenty of RAM in it as well.  I get the best of both worlds that way.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 01 2008 at 11:16
then you should care about RAM, and not about your video card.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 01 2008 at 10:08
Guys, I'm not buying a machine for gaming!

There's a few games I may play on it, but they're not that graphics intensive, it's just that I cannot play them on my current machine and the ones I can, are slow.

Most of the time I'll be doing Internet related stuff and I always have a lot of tabs open in Firefox, plus a Genealogy program (with 10000+ records on it) and sometimes even some PDF files and Spreadsheets, so it's all about the multitasking for me.  Currently, it's often a chore to have lots of stuff open simultaneously.

I also may - at a future date - decide to dabble with music on it, so a relatively high-spec machine will last me hopefully a few years, unlike a cheaper and lower spec, which may last a year, or even less.  I just don't want to have to buy another laptop within two years.  The sort of things I'll be doing on it hopefully won't mean I'll need an upgrade any time soon.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 01 2008 at 09:43
Originally posted by bluesynight bluesynight wrote:

Originally posted by bhikkhu bhikkhu wrote:

Time for my usual mantra on the subject. Get a Mac!
mac for gaming?when he says that he want a gaming laptop, i dont think he meant that he wants to play  "Solitaire".


Oh, I thought he needed a new computer.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 01 2008 at 09:34
..it's all academic anyway - he's already bought it.
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 01 2008 at 09:20
Originally posted by bhikkhu bhikkhu wrote:

Time for my usual mantra on the subject.

Get a Mac!



mac for gaming?
when he says that he want a gaming laptop, i dont think he meant that he wants to play  "Solitaire".

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 01 2008 at 09:12
Time for my usual mantra on the subject.

Get a Mac!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 01 2008 at 08:52
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

but of course the graphics card can't be upgraded so the time frame during which you can play new games is more limited than with a normal computer.


its not just that, its take time for a card to become compatible  with a laptop, so by the time it  would become compatible , it would be all ready considered as average card. so basically you will buy an average card that will cost you more then it would  for pc, and you cant upgrade it.

as for AMD, Intel controlling the laptop market, and resistance is futileCool.
its not that you cant find AMD, its just that Intel is better, and AMD is more hard to find.

in my opinion buying laptop for gaming is really stupid.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 24 2008 at 03:00
Originally posted by James James wrote:

You're potentially a lifesaver!  These look much better.  Thanks!

I'm just hoping XP and SATA will work together, I'm sure they will.  I'm still worried about a high specification machine like this running XP without issues.... I don't know if nVidia even do drivers for XP in that range, I guess they do, otherwise Dell wouldn't be offering it.

I have a lot of choices too... hmm, a better graphics card would be nice, just in case I ever do decide to buy graphics intensive games


Of course XP works on new (SATA) laptops ... the only potential problem is that if you need to re-install you're going to need a floppy disk with the SATA drivers which sucks because modern computers don't have floppy disk drives. There are ways though to modify the XP installation CD ROM so that it contains the drivers.

About graphics intense games on laptops: It is possible, but of course the graphics card can't be upgraded so the time frame during which you can play new games is more limited than with a normal computer.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 24 2008 at 02:30
I doubt you could even play Sudoko on that thing. LOL  I can't play Sudoko on this, so how am I supposed to on a Fisher Price?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 24 2008 at 02:27
James is gunna get THE DELL... FROM HELL MWAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHABig%20smileLOL
 
I just had to do that joke.
The Fisher Price doesn't look too shabby either, but perhaps a little slow for Neverwinter Nights.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2008 at 21:43
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2008 at 21:41
Originally posted by Bluesaga Bluesaga wrote:

I'd recommend Fisher Price, their laptops are very cheap and really powerful!  Plus you don't support the Windows regime this way, and you'll be the coolest kid in the UK. Thumbs%20Up




If I can put Linux on it I'm all over this.  Cool
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2008 at 21:38
I'd recommend Fisher Price, their laptops are very cheap and really powerful!  Plus you don't support the Windows regime this way, and you'll be the coolest kid in the UK. Thumbs%20Up




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2008 at 21:31
Well mine's older than that... I have got an Athlon though, a K7 1 GHz with only 392k RAM.

My graphics card though, although it's only PCI (not AGP or PCI Express) (which is one of the reasons I could do with a new machine) has 256 Mb RAM, so in that regard, it's quite healthy, although it's an old card now.

HDD space is where I'm let down and moving and re-installing isn't really what I want to do.  True, I have to do it on my laptop, but it'll be a fresh install and all the unnecessary crap (especially Win2k only installs) will not be required, so it should initially run quite smoothly.

Even my current favourite computer game, Neverwinter Nights, struggles on this 1 GHz. (ideally it needs 1 .3 GHz. with the expansions as a minimum) and some Genealogy Software I've tried uses all my processor speed (it uses Java) and therefore slows my computer down to a halt.  This poor machine isn't very well.  The screensaver slows things down, AVG slows things down and when I put a Music CD on, if I'm using Firefox, it also makes my Music slowdown and sound peculiar.

It means I'll also be able to use the XP version of WinAMP (my MP3 player of choice).


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