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lucas 
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 Topic: Prog bands that influenced pop musicPosted: April 17 2008 at 18:12 |
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"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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Raff
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Posted: April 15 2008 at 12:48 |
Well, as I suppose all of you know, Frusciante is an unofficial member of The Mars Volta, since he's appeared on all of their albums (and Flea as well, on Frances the Mute). So, the connection with prog is loud and clear here, though I can't really say TMV have influenced RHCP at all. |
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iguana
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Posted: April 15 2008 at 08:23 |
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it always strikes me that some of the newish piano-driven bands like KEANE and
COLDPLAY have some sort of progressive influence – even if it is rarely admitted or mentioned, least of all by the press and their managements and companies. imagine, for instance, what a renaissance SUPERTRAMP (although not a real prog rock band at all) could have if someone stepped onto his soapbox... er ... supertramp ... soapbox ... a soapbox opera ... sorry for the unintended pun ... freudian slip ... |
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progressive rock and rural tranquility don't match. true or false?
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darren
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Posted: April 14 2008 at 02:02 |
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Early hip hop was influenced by the steady rhythm of Kraftwerk. Africa Bambaataa sampled "Trans Europe Express".
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"they locked up a man who wanted to rule the world.
the fools they locked up the wrong man." - Leonard Cohen |
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el böthy
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Posted: April 13 2008 at 23:44 |
From Frunsiante it comes as no surprise... on Keadins (is that wirtten correctly?) it is! I cant think of anybody really  |
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"You want me to play what, Robert?"
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stonebeard
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Posted: April 13 2008 at 21:42 |
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Eno's producing is in high demand (I expect him to redeem Coldplay and U2 a bit this year
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endlessepic
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Posted: April 13 2008 at 21:38 |
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The Red Hot Chili Peppers (most vehemently Frusicante) have expressed intense love for VDGG's "Pawn Hearts" and apparently the lead singer is big into Peter Hammill.
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ghost_of_morphy
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Posted: April 13 2008 at 20:19 |
Not according to anybody around here!
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Atavachron
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Posted: April 13 2008 at 19:50 |
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when I think back to the commercial music of the 70s, that is, music written for themes, adds, and incidental needs, I hear a huge ELP influence, also a large Fusion/Canterburry impact
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Atkingani
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Posted: April 13 2008 at 19:07 |
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The late Kevin Gilbert who was a simultaneously a prog & pop musician was influenced by 70-77 Genesis.
Err... wasn't Phil C*****s influenced by Genesis too?
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: April 13 2008 at 19:00 |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Easy Money
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Posted: April 13 2008 at 15:45 |
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Bowie was obviously influenced by Hammill as well as Arthur Brown.
Roxy Music was a big influence on the new wave movement. Phil Manzenera's Diamond Head, with Eno on board, displayed a new rock style that started to show up in other bands a few years later. Eno's music and subtley-psychedelic production style have been a big influence on a lot of music. In the mid-70s, when a lot of progressive acts were making big bucks, it became fashionable for otherwise pop leaning bands to have gratuitous progressive elements such as keyboard stacks and occaisonal psuedo-classical intros to songs. Lately I have been noticing the use of psuedo-progressive rock in car commercials, for better or for worse it seems progressive rock may be entering a popular phase again. |
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Help the victims of the russian invasion:
http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28523&PID=130446&title=various-ways-you-can-help-ukraine#130446 |
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fuxi
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Posted: April 13 2008 at 15:36 |
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I notice you're all discussing perfectly respectable bands, and it almost makes me feel foolish, but it still seems obvious that Rick W. influenced Richard Clayderman, who must have been more succesful (at least commercially), more 'pop' (like it or not), than the likes of Joy Division or Tears for Fears: his "Ballade pour Adeline" (Ballade for Adeline) has sold (according to Wikipedia) 22 million copies in 38 countries!
Another unique phenomenon: Mike Oldfield's (almost) one-man symphonies in imaginary languages (such as OMMADAWN and AMAROK) obviously influenced the "classical pops" albums by Karl Jenkins (an ex prog musician!) and Adiemus, which still sell by the bucketload, at least in the U.K. - now THERE's "pop music" for you! Or are we talking about prog?
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Logan
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Posted: April 13 2008 at 13:59 |
And Hammill is said to be a big influence on the pop/ art rock artist Bowie (I believe Bowie has credited him as an influence, and voiced his admiration). Johnny Rotten, who is a vocal admirer of Hammill, has said that he believes that Bowie copied him considerably. |
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laplace
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Posted: April 13 2008 at 13:48 |
Oh, hmm, I wouldn't call them an influence so much as a looming monolith, casting a shadow that suffuses all it envelopes with a feeling of profound and inevitable inferiority and transient unimportance. |
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Philéas
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Posted: April 13 2008 at 13:44 |
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Magma was a huge influence on every pop band ever to exist post-1980.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: April 13 2008 at 12:36 |
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That's a rather hard and a good question because once I got interested in prog I lost interest and pretty much quit paying attention to pop. I did let it spin around in my head a little though.
Tears For Fears credited Robert Wyatt for influencing I Believe off of Songs From The Big Chair. I remember seeing this on the LP but it's not present on the CD copy of the album I have. I think there are strong prog influences going on in both their first two albums. Edited by Slartibartfast - April 13 2008 at 12:38 |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Darklord55
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Posted: April 13 2008 at 12:15 |
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I have to go with Jethro Tull. As one might remember they won a grammy a few years back.
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micky
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Posted: April 13 2008 at 09:12 |
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of course you can't seperate them entirely ... which is why Kraftwerk gets, deservedly the lionshare of the credit, being the first you mentioned.. the first I thought of once I saw your thread... but Neu!.. spin-off or not was influential within pop. Thus.. deserves a mention I would believe hahah.
you can pretty much toss the whole Krautrock movement into this category... that among anything prog ever did .. influenced pop music.. it was that TRULY progressive.. not taking 18 minute symphonic instrumental masturbations and running them into the ground.  Edited by micky - April 13 2008 at 09:13 |
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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tuxon
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Posted: April 13 2008 at 09:05 |
It isn't wrong, but Neu!'s influence is based on their relation to Kraftwerk I think, like I mentioned I'm pretty sure Neu! influenced Bowie and Eno (listen to Berlin trilogie and Eno's Before and after Science) it's pretty obvious Neu! was part of the inspiration, Eno produced some Ultravox albums, Joy Division (and subsequent New Order) probably did have some Neu! influences indeed, but again that can also be contributed to Kraftwerk, or Eno, being part of the early New Wave scene.
So maybe Neu! was influential, but you can't see them entirely separated from Kraftwerk.
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