King Crimson videos and MP3s no longer allowed !

I just checked youtube and it looks like Bob`s spies aren`t doing their job.

I've also been reading his journal for the last half year and I don't feel Fripp as a "sad soul" at all. On the contrary, I would like to have his curiosity, imagination, temperament, power of concentration etc. when I am at his current age. But most of all I envy his sense of dialogue with the world around him: plants, gardens, houses, the sky, silence, music and art, people, friends, relations. It seems very rewarding to me.

Regarding the legal issues he's been through for the Crimson/Fripp catalogue, he seems to be right, at least into my eyes. All the power to him.

Hexenmeister wrote: After reading Bill Bruford's biography, Fripp comes off sounding like the curmudgeon he's always appeared to be.  The man is responsible for some amazing music, but he's one of my few musical heroes whom I wouldn't want to sit and have a beer with.

Neither would I, but that's because I really dislike beer.

This is very interesting to read.  I recently considered playing some Crimson on my podcast, but decided, "Nah, Fripp's the type of guy who would probably try to sue me for it."  Glad to see I was right!

After reading Bill Bruford's biography, Fripp comes off sounding like the curmudgeon he's always appeared to be.  The man is responsible for some amazing music, but he's one of my few musical heroes whom I wouldn't want to sit and have a beer with.

Anyone who frequents iTunes notice that the King Crimson catalogue has been withdrawn?? (Well at least from the NZ Store). Not a fan friendly move from RF and most disappointing

Slartibartfast wrote: You know, these days, the internet is a much better way to distribute things.  Copies just going to those are interested rather than being mass produced and shipped all over the place.  Still I keep going to my local independent seller to browse and buy and occasionally to the big guy in the neighborhood for the instant gratification.  Fripp's internet store, too...

I like the idea of buying off the internet too, easier, faster, and better for the environment. However, at the end of the day, when you purchase music off the internet, it doesn't really feel like you have bought anything, nothing real at least. I like to have a hard copy, its just nice to have, linear notes, pictures, easily playable (you can play MP3s in cars and radios, but with much more grief and poorer sound usually).

I recently bought the Remastered version of Yessongs of iTunes, and it just doesn't feel right, not to mention only 128 bit rate is available, which is noticeably poorer sound quality, defeating the purposed of the Remaster.

Fripp will always be Fripp and we must accept that. And this is a short rebuttle to Ivan. Sorry Ivan this is a fan site. We`re all fans so therefore this is a fan site.

darkshade wrote: how about Fripp stops dicking aroung and RELEASE A NEW KING CRIMSON ALBUM ALREADY!!!

Keep that tone, and Fripp might just disband King Crimson to spite you.



That hasn't ever happened before, has it?

Raff wrote: Some people deal with copyright issues in very odd ways. If you think Fripp is bad, I'll tell you what happened to me and another bunch of people who wrote essays on Tolkien to be published in a book which came out in the fall of last year. In order to use VERY SHORT quotations from Tolkien's work in our essays, we were forced to pay £ 35 per head to HarperCollins (Tolkien's publisher in the UK), because they don't recognise 'fair use', and the publisher of our book wanted to have permission for all quotations used.  As in the case of Fripp's lawyers, this means being unable to distinguish between reliable sources (in our case, an academic publisher) and dodgy ones.

I`m quoting Raff because what she has just said makes sense. i remember when I  was in university it was stressed that plagirism could get our ass kicked out. Even if it was by fluke. So I thought to myself I`ll just be really bizarre and then I`ll be safe. It bloody well worked. One of the TA s even called me into her office to compliment me on something I wrote. I think she gave it a B because I made all kinds of typos. It was an expository essay on how full of crap the Berlin Wall was. She wanted to keep it and I gave it to her. I`m waiting for it to show up on the internet so I can sue her..  You wouldn`t believe how much of the stuff I`ve written for PA has been ripped off by other sites. Reviews, band bios etc. I`ve come to the point where I just take it with a grain of salt.

Anyway, getting back to Mr. Fripp. EG Records ripped the guy off for years and I can feel for him. I read down the whole thread including the excerpts from Fripp`s diary that Tony R provided. Now, am I going to write this bloody letter? The general sentiment is that we want KC on the site and I honestly feel that if we go about it in a diplomatic way I think we can get results from Bob & Co. And Ivan I`ve respectfully taken all your arguments into account. I`m going out of my way here. I`ll post the letter on this thread for all to read and we the people can add or take away from it until we`re all satisfied with the content.

The letter will be up at this time tomorrow for all to see. I promise. Then let the jury decide.




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I still feel it's a bit silly to compromise PA because of an artist's decision over a legally grey area (if you have to establish whether the album rather than the song is the complete product, I don't think it's absolutely watertight). Your slippery slope argument is, in my opinion, inaccurate (one concession does not necessarily lead to ten concessions in largely different circumstances).
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