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Shakespeare ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: July 18 2006 Status: Offline Points: 7744 |
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GRAAAAAAA ...mmar nub. |
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mrcozdude ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 25 2007 Location: Devon,UK. Status: Offline Points: 2078 |
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I agree,his guitar playing is controversial.I meet very few people who appreciate his guitar playing along with his ability to compose. It hurts my feelings. |
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jammun ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: July 14 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3449 |
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Not one of my favorites, and certainly not the first album I'd recommend to someone just starting out with FZ, but there are some damn fine tunes on ThingFish.
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Slartibartfast ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
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I like it but Thingfish is fairly well reviled... ![]() |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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jammun ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: July 14 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3449 |
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I've got a Lather 3-CD set, which unfortunately was replaced by Studio Tan, Sleep Dirt, etc. when they re-released the entire FZ catalog on Ryko. I'd have to agree that it pretty much sums up much of the FZ experience. The cover has a cow/meadow theme, maybe or maybe not a nod to Atom Heart Mother.
Then again, I've never met an FZ album I didn't like.
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darkshade ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: November 19 2005 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 10964 |
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IMO Lather comes sooooooooo close to summing up what Zappa was about. i dont even listen to Sleep Dirt or Studio Tan, or even Orchestral Favorites really, even though there's stuff. Zappa NY comes on because there's stuff on there that's not on Lather. but idk, sometimes i feel like Lather is the ultimate Zappa album (as big as it is). it should have been released as it was originally intended. not the 4 off-shoot albums (except NY) Edited by darkshade - April 26 2008 at 15:57 |
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darkshade ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: November 19 2005 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 10964 |
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have you heard Imaginary Diseases (2006) or Wazoo (2007)? i rank those 2 up there with the best of FZ, since they are from the grand wazoo era. question to everyone. When would you say Zappa peaked with his brand of jazz-fusion? some would say the Grand Wazoo era. some would say Hot Rats. some would say One Size Fits All/Roxy and Elsewhere. Some would say Overnite Sensation/Apostrophe era. Some would say the Lather/Zappa NY/Shiek Yerbouti era. i personally go with the One Size Fits All/Roxy and Elsewhere era, since he combined jazz, rock, humor, classical, blues, and everything in between perfectly IMO. Edited by darkshade - April 26 2008 at 15:48 |
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Slartibartfast ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
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Thanks for that link. |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Explorer-eighth ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: April 23 2006 Location: Great Britain Status: Offline Points: 39 |
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I've got two Frank Zappa/Mothers CDs - ABSOLUTELY FREE and FREAK OUT. F.O. is good and A. F. is brilliant. I love the way it moves quickly from one track to the next and everything is in exactly the right order. The words combine serious and humorous themes so that it is never flippant as such. Some of the themes can be quite disturbing with a message in them. It has grown on me more with each listening.
I still have a vinyl copy of WE'RE ONLY IN IT FOR THE MONEY which is a good album.
Frank Zappa was a great composer and he must have been very influencial on later prog bands like Soft Machine and Henry Cow.
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The music I enjoy is complex; varied; deep and well played.
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song_of_copper ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 20 2008 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 1065 |
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Ahhh, I'm listening to FZ RIGHT NOW!!
![]() Something that strikes me is how tight, how disciplined, how 'grammatically correct' his music sounds, compared to a lot of other stuff - next to a really great Zappa track, other music sounds sloppy and unfocused. Yes, he was a control freak but... I forgive him. ![]() And it's great that there's something for everyone in the FZ back catalogue - even my boyfriend (who views most of my music collection with suspicion!) likes some of it! (I think "our song" is SOFA. ^_^) |
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Nightfly ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: August 01 2007 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 3659 |
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Mine too.
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zachfive ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 13 2005 Location: Kitsap WA Status: Offline Points: 770 |
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He is a genius. He was on crossfire in the 80's as well as slew of other shows. During his interviews he stands his ground while making his hosts look like fools. Check it out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ISil7IHzxc
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Lionheart ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 27 2005 Status: Offline Points: 106 |
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You're not the only one!
I saw Frank Zappa twice, once in 1984 and in 1987. In my humble opinion, Frank Zappa was a genius. My favorite album of his is "One Size Fits All". |
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ghost_of_morphy ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: March 08 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2755 |
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There is no one CD out there that can encapsulate all of what Frank was about, but Apostrophe blankets most of it.
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zappaholic ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 24 2006 Location: flyover country Status: Offline Points: 2822 |
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This. This. A thousand times THIS.
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"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." -- H.L. Mencken
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Bornlivedie UK ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: February 08 2008 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 22 |
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This was how I got into Zappa, it's a really great album... What annoys me is how everyone I know that's heard of Zappa just thinks he wrote gimmicky and funny songs. They don't realise what an amazing musician / composer he was. Such an underrated guitarist as well. |
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jammun ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: July 14 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3449 |
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Nice wall, I only had "The Mothers Sincerely Regret to Inform You" poster on my wall way back when.
I was just listening to In France, from Them or Us, possibly the funniest song I have ever heard. You know, In France...that's where it's located...
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Slartibartfast ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
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OK, I was a pretty weird kid but I feel so ashamed now that I didn't have such a Zappa/music monument in my room. ![]() Edited by Slartibartfast - March 24 2008 at 12:30 |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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ProgBagel ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: May 13 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2819 |
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I liked most of his stuff from what I've heard. Some of his most virtuous material came after 'The Mothers' broke up. Specifically, 'Hot Rats' and 'The Grand Wazoo'.
He put out some great albums in every decade. God bless the man. |
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The Quiet One ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: January 16 2008 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 15745 |
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Not his best, but my fave...
And here's a tribute to Zappa from my brother's room: ![]() |
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