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    Posted: January 22 2008 at 17:39
Stravinsky was more prog than Genesis. 
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1. To me Dream Theater isn't very progressive, they're more mimicking whatever's popular. Mike Portnoy himself claims to be more of a fan than a musician, and their songs are often (if not always) structured as "a Muse-part here and a Metallica-bit there" etc.
2. the original progressive rock (early 70's) was so called because it WAS progressive (see other threads) as in pushing the boundaries of music, and it died a slow death in the mid-70's. since then most groundbreaking stuff happened elsewhere (extreme metal, electronic stuff, rap etc until that lost its progressive too). and the so-called modern prog is hardly progressive and groundbreaking, just the mixing of styles is not groundbreaking because it has been done a zillion times before since at least the 60's. it might still be enjoyable.
3. the most progressive current band on PA would be Meshuggah as they are progressive with rhythm (progessive melodic as been done to death apparently) and with their sense of rhythm they are closer to Stravinsky than anything else. just my 3 cents
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Points: 1882 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 21 2008 at 23:38
Originally posted by schizoid_man77 schizoid_man77 wrote:

Heres my two cents...
 
Post Rock is the new prog rock
 
 
I said it first, and belive me it is the truth...
 
 
POST-ROCK WILL DO TO MODERN MUSIC WHAT PROG DID TO THE 70'S
 
 
(same goes for math-rock)
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Points: 894 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 21 2008 at 23:25
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:


Side 2 of Tarkus is frickin great .. and those who think it is FILLER.. do more reading of others opinions than actual listening.

Pawn Hearts is the most disappointing prog album ever made... simply... it could have been one of the best prog albums ever.. and they fell flat ...

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Somehow this thread has become less fun now that it's been moved to Just For Fun. Cry
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Originally posted by Atkingani Atkingani wrote:

Very funny (until now)... so funny it'll be moved to the right forum! Big%20smile


hahhahhaha... yes... more entertaining than the average Genesis album LOL
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Originally posted by maups2 maups2 wrote:

MAGMA SUCKS



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Very funny (until now)... so funny it'll be moved to the right forum! Big%20smile
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Originally posted by Avantgardehead Avantgardehead wrote:

I think Van der Graaf Generator is a rare example of the "amazing vocalist + boring music" kind of band. Maybe I should check out Peter's solo stuff...


I'd say the same of Genesis actually outside of the masterpiece that is  SEbtP.
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I think Van der Graaf Generator is a rare example of the "amazing vocalist + boring music" kind of band. Maybe I should check out Peter's solo stuff...
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outrageous... to you all perhaps.. not to me...

Genesis is the common cure for insomnia.. and doesn't belong on the same page as other groups here.

Side 2 of Tarkus is frickin great .. and those who think it is FILLER.. do more reading of others opinions than actual listening.

Pawn Hearts is the most disappointing prog album ever made... simply... it could have been one of the best prog albums ever.. and they fell flat ...

Rush peaked at Caress of Steel... and have gone downhill... for ....over 30 years LOL
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Is it even possible to have outrageous and constructive views? Outrageous is kind of an antonym to civil anyway, plus civil outrage is a fraction as entertaining. And to add something to the thread...

Emerson, Lake & Palmer is the definition of the negative connotation of "pretentious". But they were still great guys! :)
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Points: 6890 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 21 2008 at 19:13
Heres my two cents...
 
Jethro Tull arent prog at all
Foxtrot is the worst of all the PG Genesis albums
Post Rock is the new prog rock
Post metal pwns all other forms of metal
I like Magma!!!!
Sigur ros, Porc tree, and Isis still havent made a masterpiece album
Avant garde rock is the most pointless form of music I have yet to hear.
 
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Points: 894 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 21 2008 at 19:05
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by ClassicRocker ClassicRocker wrote:


Sgt. Pepper's isn't really that good - in fact I find most of it is mediocre; the White Album is tied for top spot with Abbey Road as the greatest Beatles albums .... and neither of them have ANY filler! Shocked

I agree about the "White Album", but don't like "Abbey Road" very much

On second thought, they aren't tied, yet Abbey Road is still second for me.
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Points: 65289 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 21 2008 at 18:54
LOL  well Bob is being proven right LOL

a few remarks--

Originally posted by Mousoleum Mousoleum wrote:

Grace Under Pressure is the best Rush album.

....And this is how you make enemies, fast!



no, but it is how you get people to laugh uncontrollably

..and King Crimson wasn't the first prog band, they simply released the first prog album with most of the components in place  ..and even that's debatable



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Points: 10387 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 21 2008 at 18:41
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by allan Duul II allan Duul II wrote:

Originally posted by maups2 maups2 wrote:

MAGMA SUCKS


ShockedCry take that back!
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Magma blows?Big%20smile

correct, if you continue the sentence: Magma blows other bands from stage


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Originally posted by allan Duul II allan Duul II wrote:

Originally posted by maups2 maups2 wrote:

MAGMA SUCKS


ShockedCry take that back!
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Magma blows?Big%20smile


Edited by Slartibartfast - January 21 2008 at 18:39
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Originally posted by maups2 maups2 wrote:

MAGMA SUCKS


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Originally posted by proggy proggy wrote:

Love Beach is ELP masterpiece......

... and the cover art is a classic to rival anything by Roger Dean.  Women must have been swooning in the aisles of record stores.
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