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Cirzo
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Topic: Mike Portnoy's prognation???? Posted: February 15 2008 at 10:42 |
im really bummed they arn't coming anywhere close to texas
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acheron
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heyitsthatguy
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Posted: February 07 2008 at 22:00 |
US DATES http://deathblackmetal.net/dream-theater-progressive-nation-north-american-tour-metal/ Dream Theater have just recently posted their “Progressive Nation”
North American tour dates along with Between the Buried and Me, Opeth,
and 3.
29th April - Mexico City, MEX @ National Auditorium *
2nd May - Los Angeles, CA @ Gibson Amphitheater
3rd May - Oakland, CA @ Paramount Theater
5th May - Seattle, WA @ Wamu Theater
6th May - Vancouver, BC @ Orpheum
6th May - Calgary, AB @ Macewan Hall
10th May - Calgary, AB @ Macewan Hall
12th May - Minneapolis, MN @ Myth
13th May - Chicago, IL @ Rosemont Theater
14th May - Detroit, MI @ The Fillmore
16th May - Columbus, OH @ LC Amphitheater
17th May - Cleveland, OH @ Time Warner Amphitheater at Tower City
18th May - Albany, NY @ The Armory
20th May - Boston, MA @ Orpheum Theater
21st May - New York, NY @ Terminal 5
22nd May - New York, NY @ Terminal 5
26th May - Washington, DC @ DAR Constitution Hall
27th May - Richmond, VA @ The National
28th May - Atlanta, GA @ Tabernacle
30th May - Miami, FL @ The Fillmore
31st May - Orlando, FL @ Hard Rock
1st June - Tampa, FL @ Ruth Eckerd Hall
4th June - San Juan, PR @ Coliseo of Puerto Rico *
* = Opeth and 3 will not play.
I have a DI globals (if we make it ) tournament the day they're in NY thankfully there's an Albany date 2 days before
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heyitsthatguy
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Posted: February 06 2008 at 15:47 |
thanks
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JLocke
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Posted: February 05 2008 at 12:37 |
You know actually after studying your signature, I have to say you are not an elitist at all; you seem to have a great variety of taste within the prog genre. That's great!
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JLocke
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Posted: February 05 2008 at 12:32 |
heyitsthatguy wrote:
AND SINCE WHEN IS PROG ROCK NOT ABOUT SHOWING OFF
WHERE THE HELL HAVE I BEEN FOR THE PAST 30 YEARS?
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Okay, let me be more specific, here . . .
At the START, prog rock wasn't about showing off. Sure, there were technically proficient bands (Yes, King Crimson, etc.), but they didn't flaunt their playing ability as if that was what made them prog. What made them prog was the presentation of the stage show, the depth of the music, and really, the overall experience as a whole. However, for many years now prog has become a sport rather than an art, with countless bands copying Dream Theater and Rush with no original concepts of their own. Bands like this have, in my opinion, made prog a genre in which the only thing that matters is how many notes one can play in a second, rather than what it started out to be, which was a complete listening experience.
This is only my opinion of course, as I can't convince everyone to see it the same way I do, but yeah, I do feel like the more prudish of prog fans actually have no idea what prog really was in the beginning. They knock bands like Pink Floyd and Tool because they can't outplay Yes, but if they would really stop and listen from a listener's point of view, and not as a musician, maybe they could see what the fuss is all about. (Not calling you an elitist per se, I don't even know what bands you do and don't like, or for what reason, I'm just making a general statement, not trying to 'generalize', really.)
P.S. I'm sorry, but your statement about Opeth is the most contradictory thing I have read all week, thanks for the giggles. J/K, J/K.
Edited by p0mt3 - February 05 2008 at 12:35
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heyitsthatguy
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Posted: February 04 2008 at 12:36 |
AND SINCE WHEN IS PROG ROCK NOT ABOUT SHOWING OFF
WHERE THE HELL HAVE I BEEN FOR THE PAST 30 YEARS?
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heyitsthatguy
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Posted: February 04 2008 at 12:35 |
3 don't really seem like a band that shows off all that much technical skill
I mean his flamenco is insane but he doesn't actually "show off" per se
and Opeth never struck me as extremely technical although their acoustic passages can be near impossible at times
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JLocke
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Posted: February 04 2008 at 12:32 |
Csejthe wrote:
puma wrote:
so they're flaunting how "prog" they are? isn't that completely dodging the point of progressive rock? |
No, but saying all progressive rock has the same "point" is.
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Untrue. While saying that prog has a point could sound as if he was generalizing, I personally think that getting together to flaunt your technical skill is about as un-prog as they come. Not because all prog has the same agenda, but more because, frankly, prog was never about "showing off", nomatter what sub-genre you belonged to-- that was metal's department, but I guess because the two are combined now, we have to put up with narcisistic show-offs like Portnoy from time to time,
(Not that I dislike Dream Theater as a whole, I just don't think much of Portnoy's attitude at times)
Edited by p0mt3 - February 04 2008 at 12:33
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Csejthe
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Posted: February 04 2008 at 10:43 |
puma wrote:
so they're flaunting how "prog" they are? isn't that completely dodging the point of progressive rock?
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No, but saying all progressive rock has the same "point" is.
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JLocke
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Posted: February 03 2008 at 20:25 |
puma wrote:
so they're flaunting how "prog" they are? isn't that completely dodging the point of progressive rock? |
+1000!
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King Crimson776
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Posted: February 03 2008 at 01:21 |
^^ en serio
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heyitsthatguy
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Posted: January 31 2008 at 19:46 |
still waiting FOR DATES HMMM MR. PORTNOY HMMMM????
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gnossdrawkcab
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Posted: January 30 2008 at 13:41 |
the name of the song is bramfatura, its on their cd wake pig i think
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Go Steelers!
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khammer99
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Posted: January 23 2008 at 17:13 |
explodingjosh wrote:
By the way I saw the band THREE (spelled out and not to be confused with "3" which is a different band altogether to my understanding) open for Scorpions last fall... they are INCREDIBLE musicians, they put on literally the best sounding performance I think I have ever seen/heard. The sound effects were used perfectly and the vocalist did an amazing classical solo (it was a slap guitar sort of technique... there's a name for it but I forget). Their music wasn't particularly great, but the musicianship was jaw-dropping. At least I hope that's the same band we're all talking about here and not 3. Odd how those two bands ended up in the same subgenre of prog (crossover). It makes things so confusing!
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I saw these guys, (Three), open for Porcupine Tree last November. They did sound awesome on stage. However, we couldn't here the vocals, because we were right up against the stage. Loved the slap playing method. I though that was pretty original and hadn't seen it before. So after the show, my friend buys their latest CD. I was bummed, because I didn't bring enough money to buy a copy for myself, and he couldn't loan me any. We even shook hands with the band, and told them we enjoyed the show, and so on. We threw the CD in the player on the way home, and couldn't believe our ears! The singer, which we couldn't hear in concert, sounded like one of those pseudo boy band singers. It was some kind of "girly" voice. It was awful! We got have way through the CD and we couldn't take it anymore. You'd be surprised how far a CD will fly like a frisbee, when flung out of a car tooling down the freeway.
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Genius is always allowed some leeway, once the hammer has
been pried from its hands and the blood has been cleaned up.
- Terry Pratchett
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Avantgardehead
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Posted: January 23 2008 at 03:43 |
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http://www.last.fm/user/Avantgardian
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King Crimson776
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Posted: January 21 2008 at 15:11 |
^^ no, they were always pussys
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Avantgardehead
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Posted: January 21 2008 at 03:31 |
HughesJB4 wrote:
Cradle aren't death metal, but it's still crap anyway |
They were death metal on their demo tapes, and they actually made great music until recently. Blasted sell-outs...
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Draith
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Posted: January 20 2008 at 23:39 |
explodingjosh wrote:
Ummm no actually.... Prognation IS a new band formed by Mike Portnoy.
It will feature an all-star lineup of Portnoy on drums, Per Wiberg on keys, Tommy Rogers and Dusty Waring from BtBaM for vocals and guitar, and finally Joe Stote and Daniel Grimsland from THREE providing percussion & additional keys, and bass.
Mike Portnoy decided to name the band PROGNATION because, very simply, they plan on converting people into PROG fans by selling cds and touring the NATION, and other NATIONs as well.
In fact, the conversions have already begun all across South America, and the Australia/Japan leg tour is halfway complete.
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That's a bit odd, I'm hearing two stories at once now. Maybe their both true By the way I saw the band THREE (spelled out and not to be confused with "3" which is a different band altogether to my understanding) open for Scorpions last fall... they are INCREDIBLE musicians, they put on literally the best sounding performance I think I have ever seen/heard. The sound effects were used perfectly and the vocalist did an amazing classical solo (it was a slap guitar sort of technique... there's a name for it but I forget). Their music wasn't particularly great, but the musicianship was jaw-dropping. At least I hope that's the same band we're all talking about here and not 3. Odd how those two bands ended up in the same subgenre of prog (crossover). It makes things so confusing!
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: January 20 2008 at 23:36 |
Cradle aren't death metal, but it's still crap anyway , I suspect after DT tours Oz, we wont be getting Prognation anytime in the next 12 months or Australia being Australia, probably never
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