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Toaster Mantis 
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 Topic: Deep Purple Vs. Black Sabbath
Posted: June 27 2008 at 02:40 |
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Deep Purple, at least the mk2 lineup were the better musicians except Ian Paice, who while a good drummer isn't quite on the same level as Bill Ward (who's my fav drummer of all time). Sabbath, however, have more good albums than Purple, so I vote for them.
As for influence, they're about equals.
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"The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook
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Posted: June 26 2008 at 22:06 |
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Definitely Deep Purple, Sabbath was great, but there is so much more energy in Deep Purple, and Lord's Hammond playing just sounds so mean.
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alanerc
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Posted: March 03 2008 at 17:21 |
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Deep Purple
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The Quiet One
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Posted: March 03 2008 at 16:11 |
 rudderhead wrote:
Yeah, Master of Puppets is a real masterspiece
A masterpiece of complete rubbish!!!!!
LONG THE LIVE THE REAL HEAVY METAL:
AC/DC, Motorhead, Motley Crue, Krokus, Accept, Saxon, Deep Purple, Poison, Judas Priest, Tank, Riot, Y&T, Iron Maiden, Alice Cooper, Styx, Raven, Black Sabbath, WASP, Warrant, Blackfoot, Uriah Heep, Whitesnake, Rush, Triumph, Armageddon, Def Leppard, Witchfynder General, Foghat, Scorpions, Helix
Forget about the thrash/power/death/prog/hardcore/gothic/blackmetal stuff that followed.
Thats just all been one big detour that HM should never have taken |
Dude you're out! They already denied you much stuff of what you said...
Scorpion really sucks... Whitesnake 'metal' era is really popish in a way... Black Sabbath is a completly hard rock band being one of the loudest from 70's together with DP... Styx?.... Ac/Dc again you're saying they're HM oh come on! They're not even a loud band only perhaps in Fly on the Wall....
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paolo.beenees
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Posted: March 03 2008 at 16:09 |
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I've voted for Black Sabbath because I love Iommi's guitar so much (and he's left handed... so am I). But really, this was a really hard poll. The Deep Purple were my first love in rock music
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The Quiet One
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Posted: March 03 2008 at 16:07 |
Ghost Rider wrote:
Those of you who think Whitesnake are a glam metal band because of TWO albums should probably listen to their earlier output - when they were a great hard-blues band. If you seriously think Jon Lord and Ian Paice (who were with the band for a number of years, before they were kicked out in order for the band to conquer the US, as they did with 1987) would ever play glam metal, I'm afraid you're deluding yourselves
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Your telling me that I don't know Whitesnake early era pfff... I had Ready an' Willing's cover on my signature... Being that together with Lovehunter very great albums and very faves on my rock collection.. And Come an' Get It aheading lessing 'proggy' and more simple but still rocks. And some songs from their EP and debut are good too.
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WaywardSon
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Posted: March 03 2008 at 15:54 |
rudderhead wrote:
Yeah, Master of Puppets is a real masterspiece
A masterpiece of complete rubbish!!!!!
LONG THE LIVE THE REAL HEAVY METAL:
AC/DC, Motorhead, Motley Crue, Krokus, Accept, Saxon, Deep Purple, Poison, Judas Priest, Tank, Riot, Y&T, Iron Maiden, Alice Cooper, Styx, Raven, Black Sabbath, WASP, Warrant, Blackfoot, Uriah Heep, Whitesnake, Rush, Triumph, Armageddon, Def Leppard, Witchfynder General, Foghat, Scorpions, Helix
Forget about the thrash/power/death/prog/hardcore/gothic/blackmetal stuff that followed.
Thats just all been one big detour that HM should never have taken |
I would say the ones in red are hard rock
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rudderhead
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Posted: March 03 2008 at 13:34 |
Yeah, Master of Puppets is a real masterspiece
A masterpiece of complete rubbish!!!!!
LONG THE LIVE THE REAL HEAVY METAL:
AC/DC, Motorhead, Motley Crue, Krokus, Accept, Saxon, Deep Purple, Poison, Judas Priest, Tank, Riot, Y&T, Iron Maiden, Alice Cooper, Styx, Raven, Black Sabbath, WASP, Warrant, Blackfoot, Uriah Heep, Whitesnake, Rush, Triumph, Armageddon, Def Leppard, Witchfynder General, Foghat, Scorpions, Helix
Forget about the thrash/power/death/prog/hardcore/gothic/blackmetal stuff that followed.
Thats just all been one big detour that HM should never have taken
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LinusW
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Posted: March 03 2008 at 12:54 |
^ Nice to see someone that appreciate the "real" Whitesnake, which is one of my favourite classic rock bands to come out of the '70's. I'm awfully tired having to explain that I don't listen to the "product" Whitesnake. For all you out there who need some education  , check out Ready an' Willing.
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Posted: March 03 2008 at 12:46 |
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Those of you who think Whitesnake are a glam metal band because of TWO albums should probably listen to their earlier output - when they were a great hard-blues band. If you seriously think Jon Lord and Ian Paice (who were with the band for a number of years, before they were kicked out in order for the band to conquer the US, as they did with 1987) would ever play glam metal, I'm afraid you're deluding yourselves. I know ALL of the band's recordings, and I saw them live at Donington in 1983, and I can guarantee you they had NOTHING to do with the likes of Poison and Motley Crue (I hate glam metal btw).
As for Deep Purple being heavy metal... Well, I am a major fan of the band (their new bio here is my handiwork), as well as of Judas Priest and Iron Maiden, and I see very little similarities between those bands. I also agree about Motorhead and AC/DC being loud rock bands, not metal ones - while I totally disagree about Metallica being crap. I don't like what they did from the 'Black Album' onwards, but their first four albums are great, and Master of Puppets is a masterpiece.
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Posted: March 03 2008 at 12:12 |
cacho wrote:
rudderhead wrote:
I didn't say that Deep Purple was a metal band. I said they were a HEAVY metal band thats something totally different. To me hardrock and heavy metal are the same thing. Its just that heavy metal sounds cooler. Hardrock sounds like an ordinary genre discription while heavy metal also refers to the feel behind it. But I agree calling LZ, DP and BS metal is an insult. When I think of "metal", bands like Slayer, Morbid Angel, Metallica, Pantera or Iced Earth come to mind. Those kind of bands represent the kind of dark, grim, hostile, lets-stick-the-devilhornsign-in-the-air music that I hate. On the other hand the phrase "heavy metal" I think of bands like Judas Priest, AC/DC, Iron Maiden, Motley Crue, Van Halen, Saxon, UFO and the bands mentioned above. They represent the fun, exciting, no-nonsense lets-have-a-ball rock.. So next time I use the word heavy metal I mean the same as hardrock and not that blood-death-and-murder metal that poserbands like Slayer and Sepultura and all those deathmetalbands who cannot play their instruments make |
Ac/Dc metal or heavy metal ? haha it's a joke right... When I think in metal or heavy metal to my mind comes Motorhead, Van Halen, Iron Maiden, Metallica, Judas Priest others.. When I think of Glam Metal this comes; Whitesnake, Poison, Motley Crue, Kiss, Alice Cooper, others.. |
I can understand you dont like bands like Whitesnake, Poison, Motley Crue, Kiss, Alice Cooper, becaus they all suck. But are you realy saying you dont like great bands like Motorhead, Van Halen, Iron Maiden, Metallica, Judas Priest? thos are some of my favorites, becaus they are heavy metal? I dont even think some of thos are heavy metal or metal or hard rock or whatever take Van Halen for example they where never very heavy more like a classic rock band, and Motörhead, i seen Lemmy say so many times that they are not a heavy metal band but yust a very laoud rock band, and i agree with him. And as for Judas priest, Iron Maiden and Metallica, yes they might be heavy metal, speed metal,doom metal or whatever, so what they are still great.
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Shakespeare
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Posted: March 03 2008 at 11:03 |
rudderhead wrote:
No its 10000000000000000000000% not a joke. Absolutly the opposite!!!! |
A -10000000000000000000000% joke? That must be a world record.
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The Quiet One
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Posted: March 02 2008 at 17:06 |
rudderhead wrote:
No its 10000000000000000000000% not a joke. Absolutly the opposite!!!!
I dont just consider AC/DC a heavy metal I consider them THEE heavy metal band. You can be damn well sure that im serious about that. People who dont consider AC/DC a HM band dont know what heavy metal is a about. Saying that AC/DC is not HM is a bit like saying that George Clinton is not P-funk. PERIOD!!!
And Metallica is a complete joke they've got nothing to do with real HM and they ruined heavy rock forever.
Glammetal is not a real genre. They are just normal heavy metal bands with a glam image and I still consider bands like WASP, Motley Crue, Cinderella, Twisted Sister, Dokken (etc) as genuine HM not thrash crap bands like Metallica,Slayer, Exodus, Sepultura, Nevermore and all those falsemetalbands YUUUK!!!!!!! |
Almost all glam metal bands are a joke!.... Perhaps I don't like metal but I really know what I'm talking about. And the part of trash is just a personal taste so better don't interlude to trash metal fans ok?!
Ac/Dc HM I can't really believe you, even though more people come an' tell me they're, they'r not! They're simply hard rock. If Ac/Dc is HM then Black Sabbath is Heavy Heavy Heavy Metal .
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rudderhead
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Posted: March 02 2008 at 16:59 |
No its 10000000000000000000000% not a joke. Absolutly the opposite!!!!
I dont just consider AC/DC a heavy metal I consider them THEE heavy metal band. You can be damn well sure that im serious about that. People who dont consider AC/DC a HM band dont know what heavy metal is a about. Saying that AC/DC is not HM is a bit like saying that George Clinton is not P-funk. PERIOD!!!
And Metallica is a complete joke they've got nothing to do with real HM and they ruined heavy rock forever.
Glammetal is not a real genre. They are just normal heavy metal bands with a glam image and I still consider bands like WASP, Motley Crue, Cinderella, Twisted Sister, Dokken (etc) as genuine HM not thrash crap bands like Metallica,Slayer, Exodus, Sepultura, Nevermore and all those falsemetalbands YUUUK!!!!!!!
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The Quiet One
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Posted: March 02 2008 at 16:24 |
rudderhead wrote:
I didn't say that Deep Purple was a metal band. I said they were a HEAVY metal band thats something totally different. To me hardrock and heavy metal are the same thing. Its just that heavy metal sounds cooler. Hardrock sounds like an ordinary genre discription while heavy metal also refers to the feel behind it. But I agree calling LZ, DP and BS metal is an insult. When I think of "metal", bands like Slayer, Morbid Angel, Metallica, Pantera or Iced Earth come to mind. Those kind of bands represent the kind of dark, grim, hostile, lets-stick-the-devilhornsign-in-the-air music that I hate. On the other hand the phrase "heavy metal" I think of bands like Judas Priest, AC/DC, Iron Maiden, Motley Crue, Van Halen, Saxon, UFO and the bands mentioned above. They represent the fun, exciting, no-nonsense lets-have-a-ball rock.. So next time I use the word heavy metal I mean the same as hardrock and not that blood-death-and-murder metal that poserbands like Slayer and Sepultura and all those deathmetalbands who cannot play their instruments make |
Ac/Dc metal or heavy metal ? haha it's a joke right... When I think in metal or heavy metal to my mind comes Motorhead, Van Halen, Iron Maiden, Metallica, Judas Priest others.. When I think of Glam Metal this comes; Whitesnake, Poison, Motley Crue, Kiss, Alice Cooper, others..
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rudderhead
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Posted: March 02 2008 at 16:15 |
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I didn't say that Deep Purple was a metal band. I said they were a HEAVY metal band thats something totally different. To me hardrock and heavy metal are the same thing. Its just that heavy metal sounds cooler. Hardrock sounds like an ordinary genre discription while heavy metal also refers to the feel behind it. But I agree calling LZ, DP and BS metal is an insult. When I think of "metal", bands like Slayer, Morbid Angel, Metallica, Pantera or Iced Earth come to mind. Those kind of bands represent the kind of dark, grim, hostile, lets-stick-the-devilhornsign-in-the-air music that I hate. On the other hand the phrase "heavy metal" I think of bands like Judas Priest, AC/DC, Iron Maiden, Motley Crue, Van Halen, Saxon, UFO and the bands mentioned above. They represent the fun, exciting, no-nonsense lets-have-a-ball rock.. So next time I use the word heavy metal I mean the same as hardrock and not that blood-death-and-murder metal that poserbands like Slayer and Sepultura and all those deathmetalbands who cannot play their instruments make
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The Quiet One
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Posted: March 02 2008 at 12:23 |
rudderhead wrote:
Deep Purple because they sound more typical of what you would expect of a heavy metal band |
How do I hate being Deep Purple classified as metal!!!
They're classic hard rock pioneers together with Led and Sabbath, but Sabbath headed more heavily even I don't like none of these three amazing hard rock band being called metal.
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abdulbashur
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Posted: March 02 2008 at 12:00 |
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I love both of them. DP and BS are completely different bands, and when I analized them, I have found that DP is more structured, and complex, than BS. The sum of their parts (Gillan, Blackmore, Glover, Lord and Paice) is by far better than the BS result.
Deep Purple Rules!!!
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rudderhead
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Posted: March 01 2008 at 17:15 |
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Deep Purple because they sound more typical of what you would expect of a heavy metal band
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lucysmusicbox
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Posted: February 29 2008 at 19:10 |
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I agree both bands are great
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