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steve j

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Topic: Dream theater
Posted: November 10 2007 at 09:31

We in Wales call them Dream Theater. We may have dual language roadsigns, but we only need single language for prog band names.

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Posted: November 05 2007 at 15:52

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Broadly speaking I agree with you (there's a first time for everything!). I think that Giusseppe Verdi would be a lot less highly regarded outside Italy if we Anglicised his name to Joe Green.

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Posted: November 03 2007 at 10:10

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What a horrific waste of a thread. Is this a music forum or a grammer forum? If you are Chinese it's still Dream Theater. This was the first thread I went to. If this is any indication of the level of discussion about Dream Theater I'm wasting my time.

This is nothing - just check out the Magma MDK thread, which is all about the use of diacritics in one of their album titles: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=42461&KW=

And a splendid waste of time it is too!

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Posted: November 03 2007 at 09:59

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All of this is nonsense....

Names are to be pronounced and written as they are... ANYWHERE... there are NAMES belonging to only ONE entity in the world... no matter how many bands/people/whatever share the name, when it refers to a particular being, it's only HIS/HER...

I never agree with people in spanish translating Johann Sebastian Bach into Juan Sebastian Bach... Aghhh! His name is JOHANN... I would never like to see Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra called Michael of Cervantes Saavedra (aghhh

)... Even with supid things, I don't translate even names of cars, hotels, anything... If I can't pronounce the word (as, for example, a french name) I just pronounce it like I can, but I never translate as it's NOT a generic but something for just ONE being...

Why don't we call The Beatles Los Escarabajos (it would have to be different as Beat-and beetles are different... it's a game of words..) Or I know! All of you Genesis worshippers! For now on, as my language is spanish, it's Pedro Gabriel and Felipe Collins for me... and Yes is no longer Yes, it's SI.

Dream Theater were named Dream THEATER by their members.. If they chose to name themselves Dream THIATREDS just because they wanted to, it's their band and their name... the same with any band.

This wins for most useless thread ever....sorry

Broadly speaking I agree with you (there's a first time for everything!). I think that Giusseppe Verdi would be a lot less highly regarded outside Italy if we Anglicised his name to Joe Green.

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to the already rich among us...'

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Posted: November 01 2007 at 14:55

Peter wrote:

That's GRAMMAR.

I think a 'horriffic" thread is perfect for Halloween, but if it's not exciting enough for you, might I recommend an "X vs Y -- who's best" or "what are you listening to" thread? Those numbers and lists are always thrilling!

Yes I know, that was the point. Grammar, oh yea, horrific has one f.

And I have tried the other threads, thanks.

It's just Dream Theater is my fav band and has been since When Dream And Day Unite, I find it frustrating when all somebody can do is discuss how it's spelled for 3 pages in a thread.

So how about I start.

What is your favorite Dream Theater studio album?

What is your favorite Dream Theater live album?

What is your favorite Dream Theater side project?

Who is you favorite Dream Theater keyboardist?

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Posted: November 01 2007 at 04:45

'Facile'

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Posted: November 01 2007 at 04:41

I think I'll go with Vita Facile, it sounds much better!

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Posted: November 01 2007 at 04:18

Hmmm...

Jaimito Jardin or Giacomo Giardino?

Love both of them, but I'd probably go with the Italian (Vicky and I are going to Florence for a couple of days in December, so I shall try it on for size then)

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Posted: October 31 2007 at 20:26

Peter wrote:

Raff: here is your post, tranlated via "Babelfish" from English to Italian, and back:

Great translations, Teo! However, I can dirvi that people of the French and the Italians are much moreover acute one on the translation of all, particularly the posterior one. Me memory of that I have used to have tourist guide de Rome translate in English and every French and single name of the church had been translate in French - to times with it turns out to you a po' hilarious. Well, it would be divertimento to try at least with the names of our friends.... Peter = Peter Jim Garten = Giacomino Garden the Progtologist = the Progtologo MikeEnRegalia = Michele easy easy InRegalia tony of Life = of Livin R. = Tonino R separation = of the Dreams of Theatre Many names would be nearly the same ones... It would be divertimento in order translate those names that really you complicates of wraps has around, which the moving slabs of the gelatin or from behold.... The Arctopus

I like what it did with our names -- only I made it back unscathed!

Pedro Mandrakeroot!

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Posted: October 31 2007 at 20:20

Raff: here is your post, tranlated via "Babelfish" from English to Italian, and back:

I like what it did with our names -- only I made it back unscathed!

"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.

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Posted: October 31 2007 at 14:57

Great translations, Teo! However, I can tell you that Italians and French people are also very keen on translating everything, especially the latter. I remember I used to have a Rome guidebook translated in English and French, and every single church name had been translated in French - sometimes with slightly hilarious results.

Well, it would be fun to try at least with the names of our friends....

Peter = Pietro
Jim Garten = Giacomino Giardino
The Progtologist = Il Progtologo
MikeEnRegalia = Michele InRegalia
Easy Livin = Vita Facile
Tony R. = Tonino R.
DT = Teatro dei Sogni

Many names would be almost the same... It would be fun to translate those really complicated band names we have around, such as Moving Gelatine Plates or Behold.... The Arctopus LOL

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Posted: October 31 2007 at 14:45

OK, you b*****ds....

... Why do you English-speaking people think you have the right to translate everything to accomodate you?

....From now on you'll have to read my posts and use dictionary.com or something to understand.. let me give you some tips about how some old names will translate into the new ones:

Dream Theater = Teatro de Suenos

Yes = Si

Gentle Giant = Gigante Amable

Camel = Camello

Steve Hackett = Esteban Hackett

Rush = Apuro

Selling England By the Pound = Vendiendo Inglaterra por Libras

Death = Muerte

And believe me, I'll also do it with your names:

Peter = Pedro

MikeEnRegalia = Miguel En Regalia

TheProgtologist = El Progtologo

Jim Garten = Jaimito Jardin

and so on....

I hope we understand each other from now on...

Edited by The T - October 31 2007 at 14:46

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Posted: October 31 2007 at 12:27

Peter wrote:

Slogan wrote:

(A bunch of randomly connected words)

Thanks for taking it in such good grace, Slow-gan.

You know, re the delirium tremens thing, I wasn't even trying to correct the spelling, but just lighten the tone of my response.

Bugs! Little bugs everywhere! Get 'em offa me!

*falls off the wagon* I knew that, Pooter, but I do find it rather shameful for me to make any spelling mistakes in a topic concerned with [a] spelling. I have grown increasingly sloppy and disorganised when it comes to online communication -- and that needs correction. I appreciate all feedback, humorous or otherwise. Keep the laughs coming as well as the sobering thoughts, Pater. Thumbs%20Up

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Posted: October 31 2007 at 10:21

MikeEnRegalia wrote:

darqdean wrote:

Atkingani wrote:

There are some exceptions with kings, popes, biblical and ancient characters, no?

Großbritannien ... For some reason the Google translator came up with that for the German version, I think the German name is actually England.

Actually it's like this:

England = England
Großbritannien = Great Britain
Vereinigtes Königreich = United Kingdom

If anyone's interested:

Great Britain is an island made up of Scotland, England and Wales,

the United Kingdom is made up of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

With all the arguing over the spelling of Theatre/Theater, nobody's noticed that they spelled Dram wrong.

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Posted: October 31 2007 at 10:21

MikeEnRegalia wrote:

darqdean wrote:

Atkingani wrote:

There are some exceptions with kings, popes, biblical and ancient characters, no?

Großbritannien ... For some reason the Google translator came up with that for the German version, I think the German name is actually England.

Actually it's like this:

England = England
Großbritannien = Great Britain
Vereinigtes Königreich = United Kingdom

That's what I though. Google knows nothing

What?

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Posted: October 31 2007 at 10:01

darqdean wrote:

Atkingani wrote:

There are some exceptions with kings, popes, biblical and ancient characters, no?

Großbritannien ... For some reason the Google translator came up with that for the German version, I think the German name is actually England.

Actually it's like this:

England = England
Großbritannien = Great Britain
Vereinigtes Königreich = United Kingdom

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Posted: October 31 2007 at 08:59

^ Well Limber, someone DID ask, and start all this....

Fine! I'll go to where I'm paid to irritate and humiliate people now!

LOLGGTTYLROTFLMAO

FOL!

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Posted: October 31 2007 at 08:54

Peter wrote:

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Its a name and names have to be spelt the same whatever country you in. There an American band so there called theater, if they were a british band everyone would have to put up with it being the other way.

Anyway to me theater makes more sence, don't like the look of the word theatre.

Listen to this guy -- he knows his English....

I can admit any time I can't spell and my grammer is useless when im not takening care. I don't put ' things in forums becouse there a pain to type to be honest and unless it somthing like ill and i'll when its needed.

I was just saying as someone said a little back if somone says that how the name is spelt then thats how it's spelt. Katy can be Katy or Katie but there still the same thing, you could have it caty if you really wanted and everyone would have to spell it like that.

Edited by FunnyWays - October 31 2007 at 08:54

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Posted: October 31 2007 at 08:53

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Riiiiiiiipp! Parp! Whoooooffff!

Break like the wind, eh, Garten!

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O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
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Posted: October 31 2007 at 08:41

The method for attracting Peter to a thread is thus seen to be very simple, akin to rubbing an ancient lamp prior to the arrival of a genie...

It's simple: SPELL ANY WORD INCORRECTLY OR MISUSE GRAMMAR

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