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Poll Question: Seems a hell of a lot of CD users on here!
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    Posted: August 15 2007 at 03:23

LP's make you just as deaf as CD's, the only true way to listen to sound reproductions is on Edison® phonographic cylinders

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2007 at 03:12
Originally posted by Shakespeare Shakespeare wrote:

I love cats, too, I was only playing. The only reason I ever talk bad about cats is because, in relation to dogs, they suck.
 
Yeah, dogs... so much personality yet they lack the intelligence and or common decency to bury their own poop.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 10 2007 at 00:14
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2007 at 19:06
He got you there mickey.

Quote So at a guess 95% of this place's members will vote for:def..But it would be nice to know the remaining percentage.


Well I'd like to imagine the remaining percentage is an even 5, but go ahead and create a poll just to be sure.....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2007 at 18:33
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Tetragon Tetragon wrote:

Know fact that CD users are def as a door post, Vinyl users are not..Big%20smile

So at a guess 95% of this place's members will vote for:def..But it would be nice to know the remaining percentage.



the remaining percentage think up stupid threads and polls...


Can't be half as stupid as your Signature Picture.How embaressing...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2007 at 18:30
Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

There's a lot of inverted snobbery regarding LPs. My guess is that many of those who think them superior to CDs would only be able to tell the difference by the crackles, clicks and skips. I have literally thousands of LPs, and much prefer the sleeves which they came in, but sound wise, give me a CD any day.
 
Buy a proper turntable then if you think they sound bad compared to CDLOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2007 at 16:39
In music, for me at least, it's the passion, skill and emotion that shows through in the performance - which applies equally to classical, jazz and prog.
I couldn't care less whether vinyl, CD or 192kpbs MP3/Ogg/whatever is the medium, as long as the music is honestly presented.
As for the poll - I prefer CDs because they are a bit more robust than (scratchy) vinyls, and I'm just as deaf as Mike. I can tune my guitar to the piano, and my bass to my guitar by just using these two flaps that my glasses use for support.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2007 at 15:56
Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

I spent most of my life listening to music on 8-tracks,records and casettes.Why in the hell would I ever want to go back to that?
 
CD's rule,I guess most of the people here don't remember a time when the above formats were all we had.I for one will never go back to listening to music on vinyl.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2007 at 15:51
It's a fact that CDs have a larger dynamic range than vinyls. But due to the loudness wars, and "everyone"(at least mainstream artists) wanting to make "hot" records, CDs are too damn loud and compressed compared to the vinyls.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2007 at 15:47
I spent most of my life listening to music on 8-tracks,records and casettes.Why in the hell would I ever want to go back to that?
 
CD's rule,I guess most of the people here don't remember a time when the above formats were all we had.I for one will never go back to listening to music on vinyl.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2007 at 15:43
Originally posted by Tetragon Tetragon wrote:

Know fact that CD users are def as a door post, Vinyl users are not..Big%20smile

So at a guess 95% of this place's members will vote for:def..But it would be nice to know the remaining percentage.



the remaining percentage think up stupid threads and polls...


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2007 at 15:37
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2007 at 13:03
Originally posted by darqdean darqdean wrote:

What I would like to see is more money spent on developing new pure analogue formats. A 'vinyl' that doesn't scrach or warp, one that is immune to dust and wear. On that doesn't need RIAA equalisation to minimise groove width. A affordable turntable that doesn't rely on physical contact. Then the value of my vinyl collection will really skyrocket Approve


Wow, THAT is a great idea, and one I've never heard anyone propose before. Maybe you should start your own company. Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2007 at 12:55
I prefer shellac myself - when you get bored with the music you can soften it in a warm oven and make a nice fruit bowl. Wink
 
I actually do not have an issue with standard CD audio - it works just fine, most of my vinyl sits unplayed, slowly accruing value...
 
I do have an issue with lossy formats like mp3 that deliberately throw away information - now that disc storage is no longer at a premium we really don't need mp3 (at all, ever) - let me buy FLAC or wav-files, I've got the bandwidth and a Terabyte of disc space; my iPod is only 3/4 full and I'll happily dump a couple of Arch Enemy albums to make space for few Floyd tracks Smile
 
Most of the arguments between CD and Vinyl boil down to the equipment used to play them rather than the formats themselves. No one can seriously say a CD played on a PC is superior to a vinyl played on a medium priced HiFi (yet they try); and to buy a CD transport that is on par with a £200 turntable you could end up paying 5 times that. A £500 CD transport will last 2 years before the bearings dry-out and the laser-tracking begins to stick and jump, (what the hell is Error 6??? - I've got two players that regularily come up with that message), yet a 40 year-old turntable still plays perfectly. At the end of the day - the CD is convenient up to a point, but vinyl still "sounds better" to me.
 
I do, however, question some of the claims made for CD audio - if it were as perfect as some people make out then there would be no need for the higher bit-counts, faster sampling-rates and wider frequency ranges that are now available within the various high definition audio formats - yet they all exist and the list is growing.
 
Truth is the audio signal starts and ends in the analogue-domain - inbetween it is convolved into the digital-domain and back again and in doing that some information is lost; it bCensoredggers off into infinity in both directions and you cannot get it back - that's physics and you cannot change it - the real question is can you hear it?
 
In 1984 we where told you cannot hear a difference - but we could, so they added loads of filtering and 18 times over-sampling, and some people could still tell the difference. Now we have SACD, but no one is buying it; and we will soon have Blu Ray audio and no one will buy that either. Sony et al must be spending this development money for a reason, but I cannot fathom what that reason really is if 99% of the buying public are happy with mp3 downloads at over-inflated prices.
 
What I would like to see is more money spent on developing new pure analogue formats. A 'vinyl' that doesn't scrach or warp, one that is immune to dust and wear. On that doesn't need RIAA equalisation to minimise groove width. A affordable turntable that doesn't rely on physical contact. Then the value of my vinyl collection will really skyrocket Approve
 
(now you wish you hadn't started this topic Wink)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2007 at 12:46
Dogs are SO overrated! Wink

Anyway, CDs and vinyls sound different, but I don't think either sounds better than the other. With the kind of equipment I have the difference isn't very big anyway, so I guess I'm deaf.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2007 at 12:20
I loved that movie "Cats and Dogs" because cats were the evil ones and dogs were the heroes. w00t. It's so historically accurate. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2007 at 12:12
Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

Oy, another one who doesn't like cats?! Angry Am I alone on this world? TongueDisapprove

Back to topic? Wink


What's wrong with cats?!?AngryTongue

Ah, and count me as deaf as well....LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2007 at 12:06
I love cats, too, I was only playing. The only reason I ever talk bad about cats is because, in relation to dogs, they suck.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2007 at 12:00
There's a lot of inverted snobbery regarding LPs. My guess is that many of those who think them superior to CDs would only be able to tell the difference by the crackles, clicks and skips. I have literally thousands of LPs, and much prefer the sleeves which they came in, but sound wise, give me a CD any day.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2007 at 10:44
Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

Oy, another one who doesn't like cats?! Angry Am I alone on this world? TongueDisapprove

Back to topic? Wink


I love cats! My family has four and they all have very distinct personalities.
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