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Tapfret
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Topic: Def or Not? That is the question Posted: August 15 2007 at 03:23 |
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LP's make you just as deaf as CD's, the only true way to listen to sound reproductions is on Edison® phonographic cylinders . |
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Tapfret
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 12 2007 Location: Bryant, Wa Status: Offline Points: 8602 |
Posted: August 15 2007 at 03:12 | |
Yeah, dogs... so much personality yet they lack the intelligence and or common decency to bury their own poop.
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el böthy
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 27 2005 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 6336 |
Posted: August 10 2007 at 00:14 | |
WHAT!?!??!
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"You want me to play what, Robert?"
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Shakespeare
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 18 2006 Status: Offline Points: 7744 |
Posted: August 09 2007 at 19:06 | |
He got you there mickey.
Well I'd like to imagine the remaining percentage is an even 5, but go ahead and create a poll just to be sure..... |
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Tetragon
Forum Groupie Joined: August 02 2007 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 75 |
Posted: August 09 2007 at 18:33 | |
Can't be half as stupid as your Signature Picture.How embaressing...
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Tetragon
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Posted: August 09 2007 at 18:30 | |
Buy a proper turntable then if you think they sound bad compared to CD
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Angelo
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Posted: August 09 2007 at 16:39 | |
In music, for me at least, it's the passion, skill and emotion that shows through in the performance - which applies equally to classical, jazz and prog.
I couldn't care less whether vinyl, CD or 192kpbs MP3/Ogg/whatever is the medium, as long as the music is honestly presented. As for the poll - I prefer CDs because they are a bit more robust than (scratchy) vinyls, and I'm just as deaf as Mike. I can tune my guitar to the piano, and my bass to my guitar by just using these two flaps that my glasses use for support. Edited by Angelo - August 09 2007 at 16:41 |
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micky
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Posted: August 09 2007 at 15:56 | |
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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magnus
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 19 2006 Location: Norway Status: Offline Points: 865 |
Posted: August 09 2007 at 15:51 | |
It's a fact that CDs have a larger dynamic range than vinyls. But due to the loudness wars, and "everyone"(at least mainstream artists) wanting to make "hot" records, CDs are too damn loud and compressed compared to the vinyls.
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The scattered jigsaw of my redemption laid out before my eyes
Each piece as amorphous as the other - Each piece in its lack of shape a lie |
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: August 09 2007 at 15:47 | |
I spent most of my life listening to music on 8-tracks,records and casettes.Why in the hell would I ever want to go back to that?
CD's rule,I guess most of the people here don't remember a time when the above formats were all we had.I for one will never go back to listening to music on vinyl.
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micky
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Posted: August 09 2007 at 15:43 | |
the remaining percentage think up stupid threads and polls... |
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The Miracle
Prog Reviewer Joined: May 29 2005 Location: hell Status: Offline Points: 28427 |
Posted: August 09 2007 at 15:37 | |
what?
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thellama73
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Posted: August 09 2007 at 13:03 | |
Wow, THAT is a great idea, and one I've never heard anyone propose before. Maybe you should start your own company. |
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Dean
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Posted: August 09 2007 at 12:55 | |
I prefer shellac myself - when you get bored with the music you can soften it in a warm oven and make a nice fruit bowl.
I actually do not have an issue with standard CD audio - it works just fine, most of my vinyl sits unplayed, slowly accruing value...
I do have an issue with lossy formats like mp3 that deliberately throw away information - now that disc storage is no longer at a premium we really don't need mp3 (at all, ever) - let me buy FLAC or wav-files, I've got the bandwidth and a Terabyte of disc space; my iPod is only 3/4 full and I'll happily dump a couple of Arch Enemy albums to make space for few Floyd tracks
Most of the arguments between CD and Vinyl boil down to the equipment used to play them rather than the formats themselves. No one can seriously say a CD played on a PC is superior to a vinyl played on a medium priced HiFi (yet they try); and to buy a CD transport that is on par with a £200 turntable you could end up paying 5 times that. A £500 CD transport will last 2 years before the bearings dry-out and the laser-tracking begins to stick and jump, (what the hell is Error 6??? - I've got two players that regularily come up with that message), yet a 40 year-old turntable still plays perfectly. At the end of the day - the CD is convenient up to a point, but vinyl still "sounds better" to me.
I do, however, question some of the claims made for CD audio - if it were as perfect as some people make out then there would be no need for the higher bit-counts, faster sampling-rates and wider frequency ranges that are now available within the various high definition audio formats - yet they all exist and the list is growing.
Truth is the audio signal starts and ends in the analogue-domain - inbetween it is convolved into the digital-domain and back again and in doing that some information is lost; it bggers off into infinity in both directions and you cannot get it back - that's physics and you cannot change it - the real question is can you hear it?
In 1984 we where told you cannot hear a difference - but we could, so they added loads of filtering and 18 times over-sampling, and some people could still tell the difference. Now we have SACD, but no one is buying it; and we will soon have Blu Ray audio and no one will buy that either. Sony et al must be spending this development money for a reason, but I cannot fathom what that reason really is if 99% of the buying public are happy with mp3 downloads at over-inflated prices.
What I would like to see is more money spent on developing new pure analogue formats. A 'vinyl' that doesn't scrach or warp, one that is immune to dust and wear. On that doesn't need RIAA equalisation to minimise groove width. A affordable turntable that doesn't rely on physical contact. Then the value of my vinyl collection will really skyrocket
(now you wish you hadn't started this topic )
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Vompatti
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Posted: August 09 2007 at 12:46 | |
Dogs are SO overrated!
Anyway, CDs and vinyls sound different, but I don't think either sounds better than the other. With the kind of equipment I have the difference isn't very big anyway, so I guess I'm deaf. |
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Shakespeare
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Posted: August 09 2007 at 12:20 | |
I loved that movie "Cats and Dogs" because cats were the evil ones and dogs were the heroes. w00t. It's so historically accurate.
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Raff
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Posted: August 09 2007 at 12:12 | |
What's wrong with cats?!? Ah, and count me as deaf as well.... |
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Shakespeare
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Posted: August 09 2007 at 12:06 | |
I love cats, too, I was only playing. The only reason I ever talk bad about cats is because, in relation to dogs, they suck.
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Easy Livin
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Posted: August 09 2007 at 12:00 | |
There's a lot of inverted snobbery regarding LPs. My guess is that many of those who think them superior to CDs would only be able to tell the difference by the crackles, clicks and skips. I have literally thousands of LPs, and much prefer the sleeves which they came in, but sound wise, give me a CD any day.
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thellama73
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Posted: August 09 2007 at 10:44 | |
I love cats! My family has four and they all have very distinct personalities. |
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