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    Posted: February 15 2008 at 14:38
Live music is the best.

Apart from actual shows I love watching Live DVDs and listening to live albums. Alot of the time the music is much better live than on the record.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 15 2008 at 14:31
Kansas- Two for the Show sounds great.  They sounded just like the albums.  Saw the Grateful Dead in the 70's and all they did was tune their instruments for 4 hours.  What a waste of time and cash.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 13 2008 at 06:12
If you don't like live music, you're probably xenophobic ! Big%20smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 12 2008 at 11:19
Originally posted by Zargus Zargus wrote:

I love live music albums sure the studio albums are nice but with the best bands the magic hapens live. Some great live albums are: Live at Leeds - The Who (probobly the best live album ever)
No sleep til Hammersmith - Motörhead (probobly the best metal live album after lisening to it the studio albums sounds like pop)
 
My favourite Who and Motorhead albums!
 
My favourite Hawkwind album is Space Ritual
My favourite King Crimson album is The Night Watch (with Earthbound a close second)
My favourite Gong album is Gong Est Mort
My favourite Planet Gong album is Live Floating Anarchy 1977
These are all live albums.
 
I've spent a fortune on going to gigs and camping at festivals (including waking up in puddles of freezing water). I wouldn't have done that if sitting in my living room listening to a CD was a fraction as good as the live music experience.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 12 2008 at 06:55
Originally posted by coleio coleio wrote:

I don't know if it belongs in here as it applies to all genres, but I have a feeling I must be one of a very small selection of people that actually doesn't like live music as much as listening to it on the CD or whatever format you listen to.

What with all the crowd, and the constant talking by the vocalist or musicians, it ruins an atmosphere that the record would create. And rarely does it sound as good live as it does on the record.

Am I alone in the this perception or are there other people who feel this way?
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Good topic.  Live music can be hit or miss.  I don' t get out as much as I used to and I used to get out a lot when I was younger. 

I love watching stuff from my collection of live DVDs.  You don't have to deal with all the bad elements you generally get going out to live show.  Not that there aren't a lot of positive things too. 

But one of my last live show attendances was Porcupine Tree (Deadwing Tour).  The club was "standing room only" even though there was a balcony area closed off.  There were three aholes standing behind me putting down the band very loudly.  I was mostly unable to enjoy the performance.  By the way guys, if you read this and come back to Atlanta, please do the Variety Playhouse.  It's a nicer venue.  You know they came back by on the same tour and picked what I think is an even worse venue than the Roxy.

The best is seeing an artist that doesn't attract a big crowd at a small venue.  You can sit down, relax, get close to the performance, and maybe even get back stage to meet the band.


Edited by Slartibartfast - February 12 2008 at 07:02
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 12 2008 at 04:20
I love live music albums sure the studio albums are nice but with the best bands the magic hapens live. Some great live albums are: Live at Leeds - The Who (probobly the best live album ever)
No sleep til Hammersmith - Motörhead (probobly the best metal live album after lisening to it the studio albums sounds like pop)
And my favorite Live album right now is Unleasehed in the east - Judas priest (another amazing metal live album with the songs realy improved over the studio ones)
And some prog ones Welcome back my friends to the.. - ELP and Yessongs - Yes are 2 of my favorites. And allso GG, KC and VdGG where superb live bands with many great live albums that i have yet to discover (more money pls) Miles Davis fussion period got many live album gems, and so on and so on.
 
I whuldetn say i always prefer live albums too studio albums i like em pretty much the same but sometimes it can be nice to put on a live album if you want soem raw power/energy. And too hear new versions of songs you like played diffrently it can make you love a song you got tierd of again.
 
And i agree that genesis was always crap live at the begining the reason Gabriel started with the whole mask and makeup thing was simply becaus the audience was falling asleep on the shows. Take Genesis Live as an example must be the most boring live album i ever heard, Gabriel sounds like an robot when he talks to the audience. And they made the songs even duller then on the studio album.
 
 
 
 
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2007 at 17:24
A lot of bands don't play the same live as in a studio, what with multiple takes and the like.  That's one thing that's nice about jazz: live recordings and studio recordings are totally the same.  The only  difference truly is the audience. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 28 2007 at 21:12
Im with you. I would rather listen to a studio CD than a live CD. But, obviously, I would rather be at a concert than listen to a studio CDTongue



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 28 2007 at 20:42
Live music IS the essence of rock. Like Infadous I entered Yes and genesis catalogue with "Yessongs" and "Live" back in November 1973.
 
Altough live albums do not bring the same kick with prog music than with other rock genres (try "Slade Alive! for instance) it is still a great experience.
 
And when you attend a concert, it is even more obvious. There is nothing as such a live gig believe me.
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 27 2007 at 21:17
Originally posted by darqdean darqdean wrote:

Originally posted by ShipOfFools ShipOfFools wrote:

It really depends on the band for me. Sometimes, the studio versions are better than the live versions, but sometimes it's the opposite. Some bands are magical when they perform live (like Yes), and then there are some bands (like Porcupine Tree) that are better when they're in the studio.
Coma Divine and Warszawa are stunningly good live albums from PT - the translation of studio work to stage is at times breath-taking, unlike Yes, who didn't quite replicate some of their meatier compositions as well as I would have hoped/expected (such as Close To The Edge on Yessongs).


Warszawa is the one of the best live album I've heard, the material on it is excellent, to the point of some of these live versions being better than the studio versions (Hatesong, Voyage 34).

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 27 2007 at 21:13
Seeing a band live can revolutionize the way you hear their music, and music in general.

Edited by MonkeyphoneAlex - September 27 2007 at 21:13
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 27 2007 at 21:08
I knew Dean would get on this case with a crazy vengeance!
 
I love live music, especially for prog, with all the improv and exitement that cant be held on album!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 27 2007 at 09:09
Originally posted by ShipOfFools ShipOfFools wrote:

It really depends on the band for me. Sometimes, the studio versions are better than the live versions, but sometimes it's the opposite. Some bands are magical when they perform live (like Yes), and then there are some bands (like Porcupine Tree) that are better when they're in the studio.
Coma Divine and Warszawa are stunningly good live albums from PT - the translation of studio work to stage is at times breath-taking, unlike Yes, who didn't quite replicate some of their meatier compositions as well as I would have hoped/expected (such as Close To The Edge on Yessongs).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 27 2007 at 08:52
It really depends on the band for me. Sometimes, the studio versions are better than the live versions, but sometimes it's the opposite. Some bands are magical when they perform live (like Yes), and then there are some bands (like Porcupine Tree) that are better when they're in the studio.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 27 2007 at 06:14
I have a big collection of live albums which were often double LP's from my youth.
I strongly avoid "PULSE" like live albums, and agree with Baldfriede on that.
 
My favorites are live albums which are different than studio albums. But the same band could in different phases of their work plays different versions.
When they are young and full of potential they play inovative energetic interesting music, but when they get old (like Pink floyd, Santana, Genesis, Deep purple) their music is (with a litlle help of 6-7 additional members), just a pale or boring versions of earlier live performances.
 
But there are bands which in their 60+ plays inovative and interesting as in youth. Like Colloseum (Reunion concert 1993), or VDGG and their live performances.
I recently saw Velvet underground reunion concert from Paris 1998 i think, which blew me away. One of song played by original 4 members lineup with fantastic Lou Reed on giutar and fascinating John Cale on violin, was like King Crimson Larks tonue concerts (1973 in Central park.)
 
Other examples of interesting Live albums:
 
Mahavishnu orchestra - from nothigness to eternity
EL&P - Pictures, and Ladies and gentleman
KC - Earthbond, Live in central park
Gentle giant - Experience, King biscuit flower hour, Live at BBC
Pink floyd - Pompeii
Genesis (with Gabriel) - Paris, Sheperton, Belgian TV
Frank Zappa - Roxy and elsewhere, Best band you never heard in your life
VDGG - Vital, Godbluff DVD
Jimi Hendrix- Woodstock, Berkeley, Atlanta, Sand Diego, Fillmore (Band of gypsies)
Uriah heep - Live 1973
Wishbone ash - Live dates
Colosseum - Live
Traffic - On the road
Allmann brothers- Live at Fillmore
Grand funk - Live album
Deep purple- Made in Japan, Concerto for group and orcestra (earlier one)
Mountain - Twin peaks
Taste - Live at Isle of Wight
Johnny Winter - Live and................................
 
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2007 at 22:22
Originally posted by SoundsofSeasons SoundsofSeasons wrote:

 
I hate the clean studio sound of today. It kills the music. With the help of modern studio technique a distorted guitar doesn't sound distorted anymore at all, and what, pray, is the point of that?[/QUOTE]
 

...Have you heard Rush in Rio? Confused. Im serious about the fact that the crowds are actually louder than the band. Who wants that in their music? Dead
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Are you kidding? I'd die to have been at that show. Shows like that have an energy about them. Being in a crowd like that is priceless. It's amazing to see how a group of musicians can make a throng of people move to the music. If you don't like that, then you're either a) not into the band or b) a senior citizen.

Come on. Go to a concert and enjoy the band and the atmosphere.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2007 at 22:16
Are you serious? How is this even a thread topic? How could you NOT love a band playing live? Wow. That's really pathetic.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2007 at 23:06
I think music has changed with technology. There is a whole new art form to working in the studio, using technology as a creative tool, that wasn't around when rock started. I think about the best bands, the ones who can conquer the challenges of stage and studio, as the truly great ones. Like Queen, for instance. They were incredibly creative in the studio, and one of the best live bands ever.
Personally, I don't go to many concerts. Mainly because I feel trapped. I want to listen to the music and turn it off when I'm ready to do something else.  (Sounds like someone needs some therapy.) But at the same time, I like listening to live recordings. I don't think you qualify as a great band unless you are good live.
I also think that people who are musicians themselves are more apt to get into the live scene, because the music pumps through their veins, not just their minds and hearts.
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 04 2007 at 03:48
Originally posted by darqdean darqdean wrote:

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However, the Studio can be used as a creative instrument in it's own right (I don't mean using the technology to correct mistakes like moving drum beats and re-tuning vocals), but as part of the creative process. George Martin recognised this and through the Beatles he revolutionised the way albums are recorded - without him Revolver, Sgt Pepper etc would have been completely different records (and probably not so highly venerated). The situation now is such that reproducing a studio album in a live setting is almost impossible (and I can appreciate that some people would rather not pay money to see an "incomplete" performance of their favorite music) - which is why I think Pink Floyd (or Sir Dave, or that Waters bloke) go on stage with dozens of other musicians to re-create their "hits".

Which has always annoyed me about Pink Floyd. I don't want to hear the studio album when I go to a live concert. I really like early live performances by Pink Floyd, as they are captured on "Ummagumma" or some early bootlegs, but albums like "The Pulse" absolutely stink, in my honest opinion. The whole idea of a background chorus on stage is already repulsive to me. And listen to what these singers do! On "The Pulse" Claire Torry's fantastic part from "Dark Side of the Moon" has to be sung by three singers, none of whom are even close to being capable to capture the emotional brilliance of her. And this part would have been ideal for improvising; but no, they have to sing it note by note! What a disappointment! No, Pink Floyd live are definitely absolutely boring, at least the latter Pink Floyd. A big "pfui" on them as a live act!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 04 2007 at 02:00
 
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I hate the clean studio sound of today. It kills the music. With the help of modern studio technique a distorted guitar doesn't sound distorted anymore at all, and what, pray, is the point of that?
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...Have you heard Rush in Rio? Confused. Im serious about the fact that the crowds are actually louder than the band. Who wants that in their music? Dead
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Then David and all Israel played music before God with all their might, with singing, on harps, on stringed instruments, on tambourines, on cymbals, and with trumpets.

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