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Angelo

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Topic: Collegium Musicum
Posted: July 29 2007 at 15:36

l'll check it out. Thanks for the notification.

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Posted: July 18 2007 at 20:20

The reason is probably because it was never released on cd by itself until a few months ago.

Here is the new remaster:
http://www.blackpointmusic.cz/shop/index.php?main_page=product_music_info&products_id=10558&language=en&zenid=fqogc8q3sl7uufov8gfsnofpa6

this also includes the band's first E.P.

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Posted: July 18 2007 at 19:45

I've been looking to buy the band's first LP on CD, but can't find it for sale. There are a number of their CDs and LPs available on Ebay, but not the first. Any thoughts on how to get it?

"The red polygon's only desire / is to get to the blue triangle."

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Posted: July 18 2007 at 18:25

Yeah, I agree with you. Plus the tracklisting of Konvergencie is from the obsolote 90s remaster. The newest remaster only has the songs that were on the original LP: P.F. 1972, Suita po tisic a jednej noci, Piesen s Kolovratku, Eufonia. This is specified in the release information, but I think it should also be the tracklisting, as it's the original record.

Btw, Zelena posta and Na II. programe sna are not technically Collegium albums, but I think they should remain on this site as they had most of the regular musicians on them plus the addition of Radim Hladik.

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Posted: July 18 2007 at 18:14

The site even says (to ma amazement) that on Continuo and On a ona Frešo played bassguitar and not Nosko. I will check it later on the CDs themselves.

Edited by Peto - July 18 2007 at 18:28

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Posted: July 18 2007 at 18:08

all can be found on Varga´s official site lited on the Collegium Musicum page.

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Posted: July 18 2007 at 18:04

First, Collegium Musicum had several line ups. The first was Marain Varga keyboards, Fedor Frešo bassguitar, Pavel Váně guitar, Dušan Hájek drums. This line up recorded the single Hommage á Johanna Sebastian Bach / Ulica plná plášťov do dažďa. For Konvergencie,Rastislav Vacho left the group and František Griglák was added as lead guitarist.
On the other line ups, they are correctly listed on pages for each album. As for Witz and Nosko who are the only ones being listed aside Varga on the bio page, they were members for only one album, "Continuo". Nosko stayed for the next album as well.
Zvoňte zvonky is not a Collegium Musicum record. It is a record by the group Prúdy, whose member Varga was before founding Collegium Musicum and which was a progressive band (or prog related?)- I can send mp3´s for you to decide - at the time of his membership. The records Zelená pošta, Na Druhom Programe sna and Labutie piesne" are labelled as Hammel (singer for Prúdy), Varga , Hladík (the leadguitarist for Modrý efekt). Všetko je inak is a Hammel-Varga album and the others following it except for Collegium Musicum live is Varga´s solo work. Hommag ea Marian Varga is a compilation of Collegium Musicum, varga´s work with Prúdy, solo stuff and with Hammel.
Plus, they made their first recordings in 1970, so they were not active from 1971, as written on the page, Furthermore, the Collegium Musicum live LP has no vocals, and no lead guitars, so the line up was not always organ, vocals, guitar and bass and drums. Plus,the follow up, Marián Varga and Collegium Musicum from 1975 has guitars added, but no vocals again on that one.
Varga and Hammel made a musical together (not prog), called Cyrano z predmestia in 1977, of which also an album wss made in that year and later a new album of the songs rearranged with new actoes.
Also, there is another record with Prúdy called Prúdy 1999.as well as a solo record of Varga, called Solo in concert from 2003.

Hope this will help somewhat.

good music lover

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Angelo Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: May 07 2006 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 13244	Topic: Collegium Musicum Posted: July 29 2007 at 15:36
	l'll check it out. Thanks for the notification.
	ISKC Rock Radio I stopped blogging and reviewing - so won't be handling requests. Promo's for ariplay can be sent to [email protected]

Salviaal Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Newbie Joined: June 28 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 38	Posted: July 18 2007 at 20:20
	The reason is probably because it was never released on cd by itself until a few months ago. Here is the new remaster: http://www.blackpointmusic.cz/shop/index.php?main_page=product_music_info&products_id=10558&language=en&zenid=fqogc8q3sl7uufov8gfsnofpa6 this also includes the band's first E.P.

bluetailfly Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: January 28 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1383	Posted: July 18 2007 at 19:45
	I've been looking to buy the band's first LP on CD, but can't find it for sale. There are a number of their CDs and LPs available on Ebay, but not the first. Any thoughts on how to get it?
	"The red polygon's only desire / is to get to the blue triangle."

Salviaal Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Newbie Joined: June 28 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 38	Posted: July 18 2007 at 18:25
	Yeah, I agree with you. Plus the tracklisting of Konvergencie is from the obsolote 90s remaster. The newest remaster only has the songs that were on the original LP: P.F. 1972, Suita po tisic a jednej noci, Piesen s Kolovratku, Eufonia. This is specified in the release information, but I think it should also be the tracklisting, as it's the original record. Btw, Zelena posta and Na II. programe sna are not technically Collegium albums, but I think they should remain on this site as they had most of the regular musicians on them plus the addition of Radim Hladik.

Peto Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Newbie Joined: July 16 2007 Location: Slovakia Status: Offline Points: 34	Posted: July 18 2007 at 18:14
	The site even says (to ma amazement) that on Continuo and On a ona Frešo played bassguitar and not Nosko. I will check it later on the CDs themselves. Edited by Peto - July 18 2007 at 18:28
	good music lover

Peto Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Newbie Joined: July 16 2007 Location: Slovakia Status: Offline Points: 34	Posted: July 18 2007 at 18:08
	all can be found on Varga´s official site lited on the Collegium Musicum page.
	good music lover

Peto Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Newbie Joined: July 16 2007 Location: Slovakia Status: Offline Points: 34	Posted: July 18 2007 at 18:04
	First, Collegium Musicum had several line ups. The first was Marain Varga keyboards, Fedor Frešo bassguitar, Pavel Váně guitar, Dušan Hájek drums. This line up recorded the single Hommage á Johanna Sebastian Bach / Ulica plná plášťov do dažďa. For Konvergencie,Rastislav Vacho left the group and František Griglák was added as lead guitarist. On the other line ups, they are correctly listed on pages for each album. As for Witz and Nosko who are the only ones being listed aside Varga on the bio page, they were members for only one album, "Continuo". Nosko stayed for the next album as well. Zvoňte zvonky is not a Collegium Musicum record. It is a record by the group Prúdy, whose member Varga was before founding Collegium Musicum and which was a progressive band (or prog related?)- I can send mp3´s for you to decide - at the time of his membership. The records Zelená pošta, Na Druhom Programe sna and Labutie piesne" are labelled as Hammel (singer for Prúdy), Varga , Hladík (the leadguitarist for Modrý efekt). Všetko je inak is a Hammel-Varga album and the others following it except for Collegium Musicum live is Varga´s solo work. Hommag ea Marian Varga is a compilation of Collegium Musicum, varga´s work with Prúdy, solo stuff and with Hammel. Plus, they made their first recordings in 1970, so they were not active from 1971, as written on the page, Furthermore, the Collegium Musicum live LP has no vocals, and no lead guitars, so the line up was not always organ, vocals, guitar and bass and drums. Plus,the follow up, Marián Varga and Collegium Musicum from 1975 has guitars added, but no vocals again on that one. Varga and Hammel made a musical together (not prog), called Cyrano z predmestia in 1977, of which also an album wss made in that year and later a new album of the songs rearranged with new actoes. Also, there is another record with Prúdy called Prúdy 1999.as well as a solo record of Varga, called Solo in concert from 2003. Hope this will help somewhat.
	good music lover