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    Posted: July 11 2007 at 15:32

for example, Miles said that Jarrett is " a genius, but he dont play jazz"  !!!!.

i agreee with this statement too, coz of his albums as/ for example/  Invocations/Moth In The Flame, (organs/ piano) i think thats really Jarrett.Smile

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 10 2007 at 01:21
Originally posted by darksideof darksideof wrote:

I like the FUSION name.


I do to.  Weather Report's first self titled album has always been the basis of my judgement on other jazz artists.  That's my rooted album per say but then again, I haven't listen to jazz or jazz fusion very long.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 09 2007 at 23:04
Originally posted by darksideof darksideof wrote:

I like the FUSION name.
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 09 2007 at 22:52
I like the FUSION name.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2007 at 12:15
Originally posted by Chus Chus wrote:

A bit sentimental there, Dick, is the first one I read from you, very poeticWink




And the cynicism doesn't show -and I type this mouthing the words with one half of my tongue jammed into my cheek?Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2007 at 00:37

A bit sentimental there, Dick, is the first one I read from you, very poeticWink

Anyways I think Nina Simone says something on the same stream "Jazz is a white term used to define Black people. My music is Black Classical Music."
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2007 at 16:56
Originally posted by BroSpence BroSpence wrote:

I disagree with Mr. Corea.  It is Jazz in that it has a jazz elements, but it also has rock elements so its not REALLY jazz then is it?  It is equally Jazz and Rock otherwise it would be known and felt as Jazz or vice versa.  I mean its the same with punk rock, prog rock, rap rock, etc.  Yes it is all rock, but there are other elements involved and so it isn't just rock then is it?  I could make a pizza bagel, but that doesn't mean its actually a pizza.


Smacks of Wynton Marsalis revisionism - he claims jazz is America's classical music, and so when he play it as classical music it ain't jazz? The argument falls apart by the number of jazz musicians who have used all sorts of other musical genres mixed with jazz and called it jazz. Jazz has and always thrives and evolves by having b*****d children - and simply there are probably more sub-genres in jazz than any other form of music.  'Pure jazz' whats that then - what King Oliver played or wrote Scott Joplin wrote or the gospel songs sung in the cotton fields......?  Incorporate Latin in jazz and it aint jazz chick ? A counter arguement is in Brian Glasser's biography of Joe Zawinul, stating rock rock was the last great jazz evolution.

Is a less corrupted form of rock , rock'n'roll, which  grew out of C'n'W hybridised with jumping jive - black jazz dance, which grew out of........................

The only pure form of music is the heart beat , the wind blowing through the trees, wave crashing on the shore.........
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2007 at 05:19
I disagree with Mr. Corea.  It is Jazz in that it has a jazz elements, but it also has rock elements so its not REALLY jazz then is it?  It is equally Jazz and Rock otherwise it would be known and felt as Jazz or vice versa.  I mean its the same with punk rock, prog rock, rap rock, etc.  Yes it is all rock, but there are other elements involved and so it isn't just rock then is it?  I could make a pizza bagel, but that doesn't mean its actually a pizza.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 06 2007 at 17:35
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

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yeah.. Mr. Chick Corea said once that there's not "jazz rock", its only JAZZ. and i agree!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 06 2007 at 16:46
i agree with Mr Corea  - thats jazz at all.
 
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