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Yontar 
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Posted: May 10 2007 at 13:26 |
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anyone think that some of vic wooten's stuff could be considered somewhat progressive??? I consider it more on the soul side, but some of his tunes are really cool solo pieces that I think are semi-progressive.
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Posted: May 09 2007 at 13:13 |
 Atomic_Rooster wrote:
uknoel wrote:
It would depend on if you are a pick, or finger player.
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Picks are for the WEAK!!!
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i wouldnt say they are for the weak, more for the tone impaired...... 
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Posted: May 09 2007 at 11:47 |
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Chris Squire is always worth a listen. He usually multi-tracks the bass and plays it fast.
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Posted: May 09 2007 at 11:30 |
Atomic_Rooster wrote:
Certif1ed wrote:
Atomic_Rooster wrote:
uknoel wrote:
It would depend on if you are a pick, or finger player.
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Picks are for the WEAK!!!
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True - you can't get a really good feel for the instrument or the music if you use a pick - but you can get a harder sound.
Horses for courses, I say.
A real musician uses both techniques - and then some more.  |
of course you could just grow out your nails like a classical guitarist and then you could get a harder sound while finger picking
Of course, I prefer to use my face
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You hit the bass with your face?  How does that style work again? 
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Posted: May 09 2007 at 10:13 |
Certif1ed wrote:
Atomic_Rooster wrote:
uknoel wrote:
It would depend on if you are a pick, or finger player.
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Picks are for the WEAK!!!
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True - you can't get a really good feel for the instrument or the music if you use a pick - but you can get a harder sound.
Horses for courses, I say.
A real musician uses both techniques - and then some more. |
of course you could just grow out your nails like a classical guitarist and then you could get a harder sound while finger picking Of course, I prefer to use my face
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I am but a servant of the mighty Fripp, the sound of whose loins shall forever be upon the tongues of his followers.
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Posted: May 09 2007 at 09:39 |
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dream theater- any early material and metropolis part II
john myung has developed into one of the greatest technical players ever
jaco- his self entitled/ weather report- heavy weather
with his superhuman touch and crisp fretless tone he captured bass as a melodic and root centered instrument. He had a really unique soul, and used that in his music.
return to forever- romantic warrior, hymn of the seventh galaxy
stanley is an amazing player. totally precise with a cool chorded approach and loads of right hand finger speed due to years of 7 hour practices everyday.
rush- farewell to kings, moving pictures
opeth- blackwater park, morningrise
john derfalla had a cool folk approach to the bass, and martin sounds like a modern version of blues influenced metal players like geezer butler.
cynic- focus/ gordian knot/corlandt
sean malone is almost like a reincarnated version of jaco playing in a progressive metal outfit. He had a great sense for melody and tone, and made some beatiful lines on all of his projects
atheist- their trilogy of albums
roger patterson was a super fast aggressive player and one of the few pizzicatto players in death metal. tony choy had a very jazzy approach to metal music and helped add texture to this technical metal outfit.
Yes- Fragile, Closer to the edge, basically anything
chris has a distinct style and is one of the few picking style players that I appreciate.
Symphony X- Any album
Lepond is a super solid player with the abilities to tap, solo, and play with romeo when needed. Otherwise he writes very geddy lee style lines with plenty of bass and some melodic aspects as well.
Rush- Anything In the moving pictures, farewell era, basically anything
Geddy developed one of the most unique styles in prog. Melody finally became an important part of rock bass lines with the inception of rush. Flat out the dude is a legend for playing his lines on bass, singing, and playing keys all in one concert.
Niacin- Anything
Billy sheehan is a monster. He incorporates every technique into his sound and he freaking owns it all!!!
These are just a few major recommendations.
Welcome to the world of bass. It is a far more interesting instrument than many will lead you to believe, and is far more versatile than you can ever imagine. Learn the various styles, techniques, and genres and hopefully youi will have as good of a time as I have had.
Good Luck!!!
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Posted: May 09 2007 at 07:04 |
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Posted: May 09 2007 at 03:23 |
Atomic_Rooster wrote:
uknoel wrote:
It would depend on if you are a pick, or finger player.
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Picks are for the WEAK!!!
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True - you can't get a really good feel for the instrument or the music if you use a pick - but you can get a harder sound.
Horses for courses, I say.
A real musician uses both techniques - and then some more.
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Posted: May 08 2007 at 22:13 |
uknoel wrote:
It would depend on if you are a pick, or finger player.
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Picks are for the WEAK!!!
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I am but a servant of the mighty Fripp, the sound of whose loins shall forever be upon the tongues of his followers.
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Posted: May 08 2007 at 22:09 |
Anything Jaco- go listen to "slang"
Primus for your bluegrass funk metal needs (seas of cheese and frizzle fry)
Mr. Bungle. to get that weird Trevor dunn sound man, they rule.
and look up some of the mahavishnu orchestra. good stuff man
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Posted: May 08 2007 at 22:03 |
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Chris Squire is one of the best bassist on earth so any Yes album would be fine especially Fragile. |
I didn't read all 3 pages of this thread, but other than fragile, Relayer has some killer bass playing on it.
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Posted: May 08 2007 at 19:00 |
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It would depend on if you are a pick, or finger player.
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Posted: May 08 2007 at 17:51 |
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Like previous people have mentioned, Zeuhl is a great genre to look for great bass players in. Check out Magma (MDK and Udu Wudu), Eskaton (Four Visions), and Dun (Eros) for some awesome bass playing.
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Posted: May 08 2007 at 17:05 |
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Lacrymosa - Joy of the Wrecked ship (with a nice fretless bass, played by band leader Chihiro Saito)
Henry Cow - Leg End, Unrest
Edited by EinTon - May 08 2007 at 17:10
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Posted: May 08 2007 at 16:19 |
clarke2001 wrote:
Pay attention to Ralphe Armstrong, a bass player in Jean-Luc Ponty's band.
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... and don't forget that "American Idol (judge)" Randy Jackson. He played some damn nice bass for Ponty in the mid-80s.
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Posted: May 08 2007 at 13:05 |
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Also check him out in Tunnels
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Posted: May 08 2007 at 12:52 |
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Percy Jones wirh Brand X
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Posted: May 08 2007 at 11:08 |
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Hatfield & The North - Rotter's Club
Anything by The Pentangle
Anything by Weather Report
Pay attention to Ralphe Armstrong, a bass player in Jean-Luc Ponty's band.
from non-prog:
any of 70's Queen's albums - John Deacon is so underrated...
Paul Simon - Graceland. Check out Baghiti Khumalo on bass!
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Posted: May 08 2007 at 08:19 |
Marillion - Pete Trewavas is master of melodic bass lines. "Script..." and "Fugazi" are best, with "Script..." having the edge. Pointer left Trewavas loads of room to articulate his intricate style.
Twelfth Night - Clive Mitten played a 6-string. "Live at the Target" and "Fact and Fiction" both feature some stunningly emotional bass playing, and are both so different, I recommend both.
Camel - Doug Ferguson is underrated primarily because he's a lynchpin rock bassist first and foremost - but he was capable of great melodic writing. "A Live Record" is probably the one to get, but "Mirage" and "Moonmadness" are superb.
Pink Floyd - needs no explanation. Waters was always on the money... but my pick is "Meddle", with "DSOTM" and "Animals" coming close behind.
Yes - Chris Squire's bass playing may be over the top sometimes, but when he got a groove going, it was hard and complicated. My preference is for the very early groovy stuff, so my pick is "Time and a Word". I can't listen to Jon Anderson, so I'm not very familiar with their later stuff.
Hawkwind - Lemmy hardly ever comes up for discussion, and yet his basslines are hard, hypnotic and manic. He did some brilliant stuff with Motorhead in the 1980s too. Go for "Space Ritual" by Hawkwind and "Overkill" by Motorhead. "Doremi..." and "Warrior on the Edge of Time" are other great Hawkwind picks, while "On Parole" and "Ace of Spades" are great Motorheadbangers.
Radiohead - Colin Greenwood is master of the understated bass. That this style is actually very hard is something difficult to get across to people who prefer a million notes a minute. I particularly like his work on "OK Computer".
Couldn't mention bass without mentioning Holgar Czukay - try "Monster Movie" by Can - if that's not quite your thing, then "Ege Bamyasi" or "Tago Mago" should have something for you.
Keith "da Missile" Bass from Here and Now is another with an awesome style, if you want to get a bit of a reggae/rock groove going - "Theatre" is great, but you might find "Give and Take" more interesting. Personally, I'm very keen on the bass lines on "Fantasy Shift" - but that's not an album I'd recommend to everyone, it just means a lot to me.
Stranglers (OK, not Prog...) - J J Burnell's style is unique, powerful and melodic. I couldn't pick a single Stranglers' album, as the bass is stunning on all of them - so go for the 1977-1982 collection.
...there's a pattern here - I like my basslines hard, melodic and inventive - not over-fussy. Bass is a surprisingly delicate and subtle art-form, oft-derided by guitarist for having less strings and hence being the easy option - but give a guitarist a bass, and laugh as they try to play chords or leads!
...and those are almost all of my own main influences as a bass player
Edited by Certif1ed - May 08 2007 at 08:35
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Posted: May 08 2007 at 06:50 |
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Pain Of Salvation- The Perfect Element- Kristoffer Gildenlows bass work is simply stunning here and has to be listeneed to carefully as the bass line sometimes pops up in unusual places.
Dream Theater- Scenes From A Memory- John Myung is hugely talanted in this album had them all playing at their best.
The Tangent- The Music That Died Alone- Johnas Reingold is a brilliant bassist
Weather Report- Heavy Weather
Soft Machine- Third
Marillion- Script For A Jesters Tear
The Mars Volta- De-Loused In The Comatorium
Red Hot Chili Peppers- Blood, Suger, Sex, Magik/ Mothers Milk
As a bass player I can tell you that all these really grabed me for their bass work.
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