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    Posted: January 13 2009 at 14:02

Tarkus - ELP

Echoes - Floyd

Thick As A Brick - Tull

For Richard - Caravan

Halleluwah - Can

All Of The Above and Duel With The Devil, both Transatlantic

Close To The Edge and Gates of Delirium - Yes

The Great Nothing - Spock's Beard

The Sky Moves Sideways alternative version - Porcupine Tree

Cassandra Gemini - Mars Volta

Rush - 2112

Etc. ad infinitum....
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1. Thick as a Brick
2. Close to the Edge
3. Suppers Ready
4. The Gates of Delirium
5. Tarkus
Honorable mention: A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers

IMO 10+ minutes does not make an epic, way too many songs would fall under that distinction which shouldnt.
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1. Octavarium - Dream Theater i'm  a DT fan a long time ago now, i love all of their epics, but definitly i think that Octavarium is the most well structured, complex song... with all of their influences gathered in there, powerful and in crecendo
2. Rush - 2112 one of the best classical albums inside prog... nuff said Big smile
3. Pink Floyd - Shine on You Crazy Diamond a masterpiece!!
4. Yes - Close To The Edge beautiful piece of prog, i listened for the first time in this website on their beginnigs, and it was quite a revelation to me, i entered into another world of music xD
5. Queen - The Prophet's Song i never listened such a complex vocal work like this one... May making his best work ever, love this one
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Karn Evil 9 - ELP
A trio at the very peak of their creative powers aided and abetted by the sort of technology that was 20 years ahead of the rest of the game
Close to the Edge - Yes
The whole is way, way greater than the sum of it's parts. The view from inside Anderson's backside was not yet a tourist destination called Gullible's Travels.
Tarkus - ELP
Created the template or blueprint for so many of the subsequent prog epic suites.
Suppers Ready - Genesis
Although really just a collection of song segments, the seamless arrangement is masterly
A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers - VDGG
Which illustrates you can write very long compositions without recourse to space filling virtuosity. A rare feat.


Edited by ExittheLemming - January 11 2009 at 10:17
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Supper's Ready - Genesis
Chupacabras - Phideaux
Ommadawn - Mike Oldfield
Gates Of Delirium - Yes
Sequenze E Frequenze - Franco Battiato
Thick As A Brick - Jethro Tull
Cante Nomade Per Un Prigionero Politico - Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso
Karn Evil 9 - ELP
Osanna - Palepoli
Tenemos Roads - National Health

Limited to one/band and the longer ones...and a top 5 is out of question. I don't have the guts.
Will probably be back for more when I remember them.





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I couldn't get the list any shorter than twenty. 
 
Supper's Ready -- Genesis
Amarok -- Mike Oldfield
Journey to the Center of the Earth -- Rick Wakeman
Awaken -- Yes
Duel With The Devil -- Transatlantic
Karn Evil 9 (all impressions) -- Emerson, Lake and Palmer
2112 -- Rush
Echoes -- Pink Floyd
World of Adventures -- The Flower Kings
L'isola di Niente -- PFM
Kohntarkosz -- Magma
And You And I -- Yes
Voyage 34 -- Porcupine Tree
Halloween -- Pulsar
I Am The Sun -- The Flower Kings
Sun Symphonica -- Jan Dukes de Grey
Lament -- Gryphon
Silently Falling -- Chris Squire
K. A. -- Magma
I Could Never Be A Soldier -- Gnidrilog
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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1. Pink Floyd - Echoes( a masterpiece Hug)
2. Genesis - Suppers Ready
3. Van der Graaf Generator - A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers/Sleepwalkers(I couldn't pick one or the otherEmbarrassed)
4. Camel White Rider/Lady Fantasy(same as above)
5. Rush - 2112

I would have put all the other PF songs but I tried to include more than one band. These aren't necessarily the best but at the moment I like them better than the others in their respective sub-genres.


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What are we considering to be epics?  I consider epics to be 15 mins+, so.....

Coheed & Cambria - The Willing Well
Coheed & Cambria - The End Complete
Emerson, Lake, & Palmer - Tarkus
Emerson, Lake, & Palmer - Karn Evil 9
Genesis - Supper's Ready
Pink Floyd - Dogs
Pink Floyd - The Dark Side Of The Moon (originally conceived as a single piece)
Pink Floyd - Echoes
Pink Floyd - Shine On You Crazy Diamond
Yes - Close To The Edge
Yes - Awaken
Yes - The Gates Of Delirium
Yes - The Revealing Science Of God (Dance Of The Dawn)
Yes - The Remembering (High The Memory)
Yes - Ritual (Nu Sommes du Soliel)

...but if were going by around 10 minutes...

Coheed & Cambria - In Keeping Secrets Of Silent Earth:3 (it's a stretch at around 8 mins, but it's VERY epic)
Coheed & Cambria - The Light & The Glass
Coheed & Cambria - 21:13
Emerson, Lake, & Palmer - The Endless Enigma
Genesis - The Musical Box
Genesis - Firth Of Fifth
King Crimson - Epitaph
King Crimson - In The Court Of The Crimson King
Pink Floyd - A Saucerful Of Secrets (Pompeii version)
Pink Floyd - Pigs (Three Different Ones)
Pink Floyd - Sheep
Queen - The Prophet's Song
Yes - Yours Is No Disgrace
Yes - Starship Trooper
Yes - Heart Of The Sunrise
Yes - And You And I
Yes - Sound Chaser
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In no order:

Cassandra Gemini - The Mars Volta
Black Rose Immortal - Opeth
Plague Of Lighthouse Keepers - VDGG
Rubycon - Tangerine Dream
Light Of Day, Day Of Darkness - Green Carnation

I'd also like to mention:

The Ikon - Utopia
Crimson - The Edge Of Sanity
I - Meshuggah
TAAB - Jethro Tull

Of course, that is super-epics. If I were to list all my favourite epics (i.e. 10 minutes +) I would be here all day deciding.
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Amarok - Mike Oldfield
Hamburger Concerto - Focus
A Plague Of Lighthouse Keepers - VDGG
Nine Feet Underground - Caravan
Theusz Hamtaahk - Magma
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Close to the Edge - Yes
Eruption - Focus
Thick as a Brick - Jethro Tull
Echoes - Pink Floyd
SOYCD - Pink Floyd

All for the same reason - those pieces all hold you spellbound from start to finish, and I never tire of hearing them.


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My Top 5 would come from the following shortlist.  Why? Because they're all brilliant.
 
Yes - Awaken (the ultimate in prog?)
Pink Floyd - Echoes
Glass Hammer - Further Up and Further In
Flower Kings - Stardust We Are
Yes - Gates of Delirium
Flower Kings - I Am The Sun
Glass Hammer - Behind The Great Beyond
Todd Rundgren's Utopia - Theme From Utopia
IQ - The Seventh House
Spock's Beard - The Great Nothing
Pink Floyd - Shine On
ELP - Karn Evil 9
Transatlantic - All Of The Above
IQ - The Last Human Gateway
 
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Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

Adrenalize - Porcupine Tree
 
Noooooo!!!! That would be "Anesthetize"!!! Wink
Otherwise, we would have to address Def Leppard's prog credentials LOL
 
Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

Rime of the Ancient Mariner - Iron Maiden (why hasn't anyone mentioned this classic!) 
 
Yes!!!
An all time classic epic!
I guess most people (me included) think of Maiden as prog-related and not fully "prog", perhaps?
 
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  1. Dream Theater - A Change of Seasons
    An epic with great sound, performance and unprecedented flow. Beautifully written, arranged and put togeteher. Almost their finest hour.
  2. Yes - Close to the Edge
    For everything already mentioned by others.
  3. Pink Floyd - Echoes
    Beautiful and ethereal epic prog space blues at it best, and the climax in the middle has to be the best ever on an epic yet.
  4. Rush - 2112
    Most kick-ass hard rockin prog epic ever.
  5. Porcupine Tree - The Sky Moves Sideways
    Beautiful and ethereal, while modern and driving at the same time. Steven Wilson's early peak.
Honorary mention:
  • Dream Theater - Six Degrees of Iner Turbulence
    Absulutely amazing, but musically perhaps too much derivative of other bands

NOT considered:

  • Genesis - Supper's Ready
    For the horrendous Willow-f*****-Farm segment

 



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there are many, but my current top 5 are
1-echoes-pf- probably the best epic ever composed
2-land of nobody-eloy- the opening bass line turned me into prog and changed the way i listen to music forever
3-nine feet underground- caravan's best song..i never tire listening to this track and everytime it passes smoothly like few minutes
4-gravedigger-janus-the most haunting epic i ever heard..chilling, sad, and utterly beautiful
5-shine on your crazy diamond-pf-probably the most famous of them all..the best tribute ever given to someone..genuis.. 
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Originally posted by crimson87 crimson87 wrote:

What about doing a Top 20 or 50 epics of all time with votes like the big albums thread. Each one chooses 5 and that's it
 
I find it to be a fine idea, but itīs still hard to choose only five.Well,
at least, for me. Some of us would be in the same situation we are by now
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Originally posted by crimson87 crimson87 wrote:

What about doing a Top 20 or 50 epics of all time with votes like the big albums thread. Each one chooses 5 and that's it
 
A find it to be a fine idea, but it could be very hard to choose only 5 as it is
now for me
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What about doing a Top 20 or 50 epics of all time with votes like the big albums thread. Each one chooses 5 and that's it
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A new list coming to my mind:
 
Spockīs Beard - The great nothing
Transatlantic - All of the above
Yes - Gates of delirium
Pink Floyd - Shine on you crazy diamond (both parts)
VdGG - Pioneers over C (is it long enough to be considered as an epic?)
 
Iīm missing some great others, but thereīll be some more lists soon
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