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yarstruly
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Topic: Definitive prog band Posted: June 13 2007 at 01:38 |
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purplepiper
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Posted: June 13 2007 at 01:23 |
you guys, king crimson has the word 'king' in their name for a reason...because they (which means everyone who has played under that name, but particularly the 3rd lineup) were are and will be the kings of prog for much time to come. I'd like to say forever, but then i'd be condemning myself to living in their shadow as an aspiring prog guitarist/bassist/lyricist. The fact is though...they are the definitive prog band. It's settled. King crimson it is!
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LeInsomniac
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Posted: May 27 2007 at 15:26 |
To me King crimson is the band that close gets to defining prog, but come to think of it, so do Van der Graaf Generator, so do Yes, so do Genesis, so do Frank Zappa, so do PFM, so do...
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Posted: May 27 2007 at 09:32 |
King Crimson & Van der Graaf Generator.
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raindance2007
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Posted: May 27 2007 at 03:38 |
schizoid_man77 wrote:
I dont consider Tull one of the three
definative bands of prog, simply because... they lived on hits. I'm
sorry, but it is true. How can you do two amazing albums like taab and
a passion play, then come out with the very poppy and catchy three
minuete long tunes of skating away and bungle in the jungle on the very
non-prog warchild album? |
Yes, but if you realised Warchild was a movie soundtrack then you would
realise it wasn't really a Tull album. But in saying that, the 7 bonus
tracks on the Warchild remaster show the real Tull of 1974 with
typical heavy/folky prog songs such as Paradise steakhouse, Saturation,
Sealion 2, Glory row, Quartet, Rainbow blues, March the mad scientist
and Warchild waltz. That's enough songs to form another classic prog
folk rock album and alot better than the original 10 songs chosen for
the album. But there are 3 or 4 pretty cool songs on the original album
anyway .
While you won't find a band with as many great prog remasters such as
TAAB. APP, Heavy horses, Songs from the wood, Roots to branches and A.
While Warchild and Stormwatch are the best remasters ever done
according to bonus track additions. Tull have plenty of prog songs and
plenty of amazing acoustics and heavy songs
Edited by raindance2007 - May 27 2007 at 03:46
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PorcupineDreams
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Posted: May 26 2007 at 18:04 |
I think I'll say something other than the typical King Crimson. Personally, I define and compare all prog to Dream Theater. I don't care how essential they were in creating prog, but that is how I personally define it.
Probably because they are the first prog band I got into, and the fact that before I ever knew prog existed, I've always liked hard rock/metal of all kinds and it's important that that element is kept in the prog/music in general that I listen to.
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Badabec
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Posted: May 26 2007 at 07:41 |
King Crimson for having made the first truly progressive album ever and for their constant changes,
Emerson, Lake & Palmer for their extreme experimenting with sounds,
Genesis because they brought a new dimension of music, lyrics and shows for prog,
Gentle Giant for being the most sophisticated band that ever existed,
Yes for their incredible sophisticated music (look at Howe and Wakeman)
and for having brought out some of the (in my opinion) best and most
essential prog-albums (Close To The Edge, Tales From Topographic
Oceans, Relayer)...
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MusicForSpeedin
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Posted: May 25 2007 at 20:38 |
The band that defines prog rock is rapeman...check em out
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Dim
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Posted: May 25 2007 at 19:04 |
Same^
Before I even knew what prog was floyd was one of my favirotes. now I dont listen to them as much as I should.
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Kid-A
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Posted: May 25 2007 at 10:29 |
To the non prog-head, Pink Flyod is absolutely the definition band, or ELP.
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The Whistler
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Posted: May 25 2007 at 05:48 |
schizoid_man77 wrote:
I dont consider Tull one of the three definative bands of prog, simply because... they lived on hits. I'm sorry, but it is true. How can you do two amazing albums like taab and a passion play, then come out with the very poppy and catchy three minuete long tunes of skating away and bungle in the jungle on the very non-prog warchild album? |
One could say the same thing about Yes...they lived (and still do) off radio hits like "Seen All Good People," "Roundabout," and, dare I say it, "Loner of an Ownly Heart." And I still contend that Close to the Edge is a very looooong song, rather than a multi-part suite. It's just harder and softer in some places, and dressed up in complex soloing, but at heart, a nice little tune.
And Warchild not prog? Oh, you must hate that the Moody Blues are here...
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Dim
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Posted: May 24 2007 at 19:42 |
The Wizard wrote:
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Wrong
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yargh
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Posted: May 24 2007 at 14:37 |
"...or alternatively substitute the name of your own favorite band above in place of Yes..."
No, it doesn't work for most bands -- that's why Yes is the definitive prog band. Most bands are missing at least one of those elements.
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Posted: May 24 2007 at 14:22 |
yargh wrote:
I agree with Yes as the definitive prog band. They embody just about every prog cliche -- good and bad -- that there is. 1) They started off as a non-prog band and became prog over time; 2) They were from England; 3) Their best material was great and helped change popular music; 4) They had rotating personnel; 5) The album covers; 6) the mystical lyrics; 6) They got bloated and stale toward the end of the '70s and stopped recording regularly; 7) They went "pop" in the '80s and had a commercial resurgence while alienating most of their old fans; 8) They went back to being somewhat progressive in the second half of the '90s to the present, but it was just a pale imitation of how good they once were; 9) there are legions of people on the internet who have deluded themselves into thinking that #8 isn't true. |
...or alternatively substitute the name of your own favorite band above in place of Yes...
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yargh
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Posted: May 24 2007 at 12:31 |
I agree with Yes as the definitive prog band. They embody just about every prog cliche -- good and bad -- that there is. 1) They started off as a non-prog band and became prog over time; 2) They were from England; 3) Their best material was great and helped change popular music; 4) They had rotating personnel; 5) The album covers; 6) the mystical lyrics; 6) They got bloated and stale toward the end of the '70s and stopped recording regularly; 7) They went "pop" in the '80s and had a commercial resurgence while alienating most of their old fans; 8) They went back to being somewhat progressive in the second half of the '90s to the present, but it was just a pale imitation of how good they once were; 9) there are legions of people on the internet who have deluded themselves into thinking that #8 isn't true.
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The Wizard
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Posted: May 24 2007 at 09:59 |
Pink Floyd
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evilromero
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Posted: May 24 2007 at 09:56 |
For me it would be DT's Falling Into Infinity album. There's just so much variety and display of musicianship.
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The Bard
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Posted: May 24 2007 at 09:41 |
I would also go with Yes. Tull is not prog enough in my eyes. Yes also had more rock spouts than ELP while still having the keyboards and 20 minute epics. Even though I probably like ELP more, Yes is the definative.
Edited by The Bard - May 24 2007 at 09:42
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RedProgDog
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Posted: May 24 2007 at 09:22 |
Hi,
i find very hard to point one band that defines prog-rock genre.Of course almost everyone return to roots of this genre, but according to their taste.It'a a subjective choise. Mine's would be Yes, they stick to their guns and endurred through time, delivering complex but beauti full music, and for me allways inspireing and hopeful.
Stay PROG!!!
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