Cat Stevens, an apology......

threefates wrote: Reed Lover wrote: I'm not putting you down for being you-I am putting you down for supporting Steven's deportation. I could put you down for putting me down putting you down for putting me down,but what would be the point? Give up this infatuation with me-it aint gonna happen!!! I'm glad you think so highly of yourself... atleast someone does! You can't put me or anyone else down for supporting Yusef's deportation... you don't have enough accurate information regarding exactly what there is on him.

Now just stop it with this obsessive behaviour.This is stalking and there are laws against it you know!

threefates wrote: Reed Lover wrote: Easy Livin wrote: This one I think RL http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1682 thanks Easy....I was being lazy Apparently, according to Threefates, he once said some threatening things about American Imperialism and therefore became an enemy of the people of the USA. The basic premise of her argument supporting the celebrated pacifists' expulsion from American soil was "why take the risk?" I don't see where there has been any proof given as to his innocense... any one can get a good lawyer... I see you continue to make just as much sense as usual in your attempt to put down others...

I'm not putting you down for being you-I am putting you down for supporting Steven's deportation.
I could put you down for putting me down putting you down for putting me down,but what would be the point?

Give up this infatuation with me-it aint gonna happen!!!

I don't honestly suspect him of terrorist ties, and he's never commited nor been accused of a crime as far as I know. Just because he irritates me doesn't make him a bad person.

But I don't think it's is all that unreasonable to restrict visitation to a country that is engaged in a war (even a war that I'm not a big fan of, if you were wondering )...by no means is it comparable to the Asian detention camps during WWII, or any other historical act of persecution. So far our conduct towards Muslims off the battlefield has been fairly atrocity-free for once, and I'd love to keep it that way- in order to retain whatever national pride we can still muster (plus, I'd like as few people to get hurt or killed as possible- but that's just my hippie idealism, right? ).

Do we suspect Muslims more that is deserved? Yeah, I think many of us do. Is this particular act an example of causing suffering? Not enough to earn my protest. If you're looking for incidences of our terrorist paranoia- that are actually worth the vigilant eye of the true patriot and lover of freedom- there are several more important ones going on right now that we could be talking about...

Reed Lover wrote: Easy Livin wrote: This one I think RL http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1682 thanks Easy....I was being lazy Apparently, according to Threefates, he once said some threatening things about American Imperialism and therefore became an enemy of the people of the USA. The basic premise of her argument supporting the celebrated pacifists' expulsion from American soil was "why take the risk?"

I don't see where there has been any proof given as to his innocense... any one can get a good lawyer...

I see you continue to make just as much sense as usual in your attempt to put down others...

I'll stand by my old view- that the US has a right to deny a visitor for any reason (especially during our citizens' heightened anxiety over airplane-related dangers). If he'd been a US citizen unjustly detained or interrogated, that would be a different story.

You may dislike the predjudice implied by the US actions, but there was no cruelty beyond forcing him to alter his travel plans. I guarantee you all that I would be turned away from several countries that permit his entry- and I'm no terrorist either. Of course, I have no 'good name' to collect on afterwards...

Read the sign over the bar: "We have the right to refuse service."

A humble and publicity-shunning man, Yusef is almost never referred to without praise for his efforts for peace and charity (including on his own website- in addition to his mastery of the acoustic guitar, he's learned how to toot his own horn). Of course, his greatest gift to the world may have been when he gave up the music business- shortly after his third single showed the extremely narrow range of his talents.

Ahhh, that felt good. I've rid myself of all my negativity in one post.

maani wrote: Reed: I've said some threatening things about U.S. imperialism, but I don't consider myself an enemy of the people of the United States... Peace.

Am I missing something as you seem to be just agreeing with me....?

Reed Lover wrote: I've only read Midnight's Children and it was sooooo boring.I had to finish it but definitely on my most-overrated literature list

I finished it as well, although (unless I was missing something extremely obvious) he'd said all he had to say in the first 100 pages.