The truth about the TOP 100 ranking

micky wrote: MikeEnRegalia wrote: ^ so are you suggesting that we conduct a poll about the constants of the algorithm? beats Dream Theater polls anyday

That & the constant polls re : Phil Collins

AM I to understand that some have hit it on the dot that some are KO'd from an overexposure or feel overrun by reviews of  a certain recent  release ?
And one extra point here, doesn't Donald Trump own the trademark to the "Truth" ?
P.S. Is this starting to sound like a soap opera where the plot seems to progress very slowly ? Already April, & we've yet to get over the last year's "polled" pantheon of prog perfection. Could we start a thread arguing that the choices that were voted top ten in 2005 are not deserving of that accolade ? Should we re-visit the top 100 ranking & dissect it to ensure no one has been "goosing" up their fave artist to make sure they out rank other groups who they dislike ? Heck , I gave VDGG albums 3 stars just to be nice, & now I think myself dishonest, because I simply could not find more than one song on 7 of their so-called top rated albums that I actually liked. So I thought I'd at least recognise that they have a sizeable following. And that was mainly because it sounds like another favourite of mine  - A Whiter Shade Of Pale !
SO if possible, I'd like to request that my all my VDGG be deleted, so I can restate them to better reflect my actual opinion of them. I mean, I wouldn't want to skew the results of this ranking. That & having gone over the list, I notice that Albums I actually love are behind these VDGG releases, & I wonder if my over-rating just to be nice makes the difference in who comes in at # 83 instead of # 92. Not that I'm accusing anyone else of purposely rating an album highly to boost their idol, or dismissing another group's album with a low (say one star) rating so as to bring down a band they abhor.
Actually, that may be more honest than trying to be objective. I mean, in the sense of having listened to an album & disliked it, make sure you sign in & rate it to reflect its' one star value in your eyes. Just might be that too many of us just go in for our faves.


Edited by pantacruelgruel - April 05 2007 at 13:54

The T wrote: martinn wrote: The T wrote: My algorithm will work better:   rate*numberofreviews*numberoftimesLaBriesingsonalbum - numberoftimesKayoDotappearsonalbum/ overall rating.   I really wasn't interested in hearing Kayo Dot although it has been named Progarchives Album of the Year, but your obsession with it is making me curious. I may check it out now.   I'm not really obsessed...i found the album atrocious but many people like it a lot and I just keep coming after it as a kind of very mature and grown-up vendetta for all the cheap shots agains The Dream...

The T wrote: My algorithm will work better:   rate*numberofreviews*numberoftimesLaBriesingsonalbum - numberoftimesKayoDotappearsonalbum/ overall rating.

I really wasn't interested in hearing Kayo Dot although it has been named Progarchives Album of the Year, but your obsession with it is making me curious. I may check it out now.

russellk wrote: I think the algorithm is nigh on perfect, and I want to publicly thank those involved. It's all in how you use it, really. The top albums are the best' popular' prog albums; others further down the track are either popular albums on which opinion is divided, or more obscure albums beloved of fans. What tends to happen, I've observed, is that as an obscure album gets noticed and more people acquire it, the average rating gradually drops and its position stays about the same. This seems to be as the album moves out of the ambit of fans only and into the general prog consciousness. Lotsa fun and not a life or death issue.

^ so are you suggesting that we conduct a poll about the constants of the algorithm?

"accurate to describe the general preferences about prog": Isn't this a contradiction in terms? "General preferences" can only mean a compromise between the personal preferences of all the users, which is inherently in-accurate.

rileydog22 wrote: I don't understand why anybody gives a crap about the top 100.  If you love an album, then you love an album.  Does it really matter that it isn't on the list some computer algorithm spit out?

I think the prog algorthim is a damn good one, I'm sure anyone who has been into prog for a decent amount of time can look at the top 10 and be happy that it's accurate (even though it's subjective).

The top of the charts is pretty much as I would expect. It feels right so I'm happy.Obviously I would happier if my favourite album (Brain Salad Surgery) was higher but I have to factor in others opinions who don't share my enthusiasm.Hence its low placing (and other ELP albums) I suppose.