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keiser willhelm
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Topic: Best prog metal guitar player Posted: January 22 2008 at 11:09 |
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Posted: January 22 2008 at 07:30 |
lucas wrote:
Steve Morse influenced John Petrucci.
Scott McGill (Finneus Gauge) delivers some good guitar solos as well.
But the most influential guitarist is Allan holdsworth. He is a model for many prog-metal guitarists. |
Both Morse and Holdsworth influenced Petrucci, but at the end of the day, Petrucci is most likely the more influential in Prog metal than the other two (saying that, i still love Morse and Holdsworth)
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Posted: January 18 2008 at 18:41 |
Aeternus wrote:
1800iareyay wrote:
John Petrucci. He's no lyricist, but then that's not the point of this thread.
| Can you sincerely tell me what's wrong with Petrucci's lyrics? |
I'll tell you. They're ultra cheesy. They don't make the music bad though.
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Posted: January 18 2008 at 17:36 |
Steve Morse influenced John Petrucci.
Scott McGill (Finneus Gauge) delivers some good guitar solos as well.
But the most influential guitarist is Allan holdsworth. He is a model for many prog-metal guitarists.
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Posted: January 18 2008 at 12:39 |
Barla wrote:
Petrucci. He's amazing and can combine perfectly technique and feeling. Despite what meny people say, he has a lot of feeling to my ears. And I'm serious, take for example the solo on Trial Of Tears, man, that's orgasmic! He has very few "playing fast to play fast" moments, IMO, to be pointed as a soulless guitarist. One of the best guitarist from the 90s, or at least, the most enjoyable to my ears from that period. ![Clap](smileys/smiley32.gif)
The second place is for Michael Romeo, great technique and neo classical passages. He's more power metal, but definitely more versatile than your typical power metal guitarist (he uses modes a lot, and, well, odd times, etc). And he has great feeling and fits so good dueling with the keys. ![Thumbs%20Up](smileys/smiley20.gif)
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I completely agree and sometimes i get frustrated upon hearing others say "he lacks feeling". Whenever i hear the first guitar on Stream Of Consciousness, I get chills down my spine and find myself moving with the notes in a way, and this is in fact one of his more difficult solos. So indeed Petrucci combines technique and feeling amazingly well.
Michael Romeo is quite a hero of mine as well. He is one of those guys that can pull off Neo-classical lines without sounding like a Yngwie Malmsteen rip-off. Plus his rhythm guitar prowess is more often than not, overlooked IMO.
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Posted: January 17 2008 at 08:51 |
1800iareyay wrote:
John Petrucci. He's no lyricist, but then that's not the point of this thread.
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Can you sincerely tell me what's wrong with Petrucci's lyrics?
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Posted: January 17 2008 at 00:45 |
I'm kind of committed to John Petrucci.
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Posted: January 15 2008 at 18:55 |
Petrucci! I think even Jordan Rudess tops some prog rock guitarists.
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Posted: December 24 2007 at 16:42 |
He can still tear that sh*t up though.
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Posted: December 24 2007 at 16:41 |
Nuke wrote:
ProgBagel wrote:
Nuke wrote:
hmm, best in skill? Nah, I won't answer that. Best musician, how about?
I like adam jones. He is a real perfectionist, and is very creative. Petrucci? Ok, he lacks soul. Like, take his fan favorite, the solo on under a glass moon. He convulses between emotions so much, he seems schizophrenic. You know he's not feeling every single emotion in that solo, that'd be impossible. Now robert fripp, is he really a prog metal guitarist? I'm sorry, but no, he isn't. Otherwise he'd win handily. Hmm, fredrik thorendel. He is amazing. I could definitly go with him, even over adam jones. He has enormous talent, and equally enormous creativity. Schuldiner? Maybe, but I still like fredrik better. Now, paul masvidal, from cynic, is probably just as skilled as petrucci. He seems to have a bit more emotion, and I love his neckless guitar. I guess I have to go with Fredrik Thorendal, but it is close for sure. |
A neckless guitar ay? |
Maybe I should have said headless. I wanna play one!
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Posted: December 24 2007 at 12:46 |
Barla wrote:
Petrucci. He's amazing and can combine perfectly technique and feeling. Despite what meny people say, he has a lot of feeling to my ears. And I'm serious, take for example the solo on Trial Of Tears, man, that's orgasmic! He has very few "playing fast to play fast" moments, IMO, to be pointed as a soulless guitarist. One of the best guitarist from the 90s, or at least, the most enjoyable to my ears from that period. ![Clap](smileys/smiley32.gif)
The second place is for Michael Romeo, great technique and neo classical passages. He's more power metal, but definitely more versatile than your typical power metal guitarist (he uses modes a lot, and, well, odd times, etc). And he has great feeling and fits so good dueling with the keys. ![Thumbs%20Up](smileys/smiley20.gif)
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Posted: December 24 2007 at 01:00 |
ProgBagel wrote:
Nuke wrote:
hmm, best in skill? Nah, I won't answer that. Best musician, how about?
I like adam jones. He is a real perfectionist, and is very creative. Petrucci? Ok, he lacks soul. Like, take his fan favorite, the solo on under a glass moon. He convulses between emotions so much, he seems schizophrenic. You know he's not feeling every single emotion in that solo, that'd be impossible. Now robert fripp, is he really a prog metal guitarist? I'm sorry, but no, he isn't. Otherwise he'd win handily. Hmm, fredrik thorendel. He is amazing. I could definitly go with him, even over adam jones. He has enormous talent, and equally enormous creativity. Schuldiner? Maybe, but I still like fredrik better. Now, paul masvidal, from cynic, is probably just as skilled as petrucci. He seems to have a bit more emotion, and I love his neckless guitar. I guess I have to go with Fredrik Thorendal, but it is close for sure. |
A neckless guitar ay? |
Maybe I should have said headless. I wanna play one!
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Posted: December 24 2007 at 00:02 |
Petrucci. He's amazing and can combine perfectly technique and feeling. Despite what meny people say, he has a lot of feeling to my ears. And I'm serious, take for example the solo on Trial Of Tears, man, that's orgasmic! He has very few "playing fast to play fast" moments, IMO, to be pointed as a soulless guitarist. One of the best guitarist from the 90s, or at least, the most enjoyable to my ears from that period. ![Clap](smileys/smiley32.gif) The second place is for Michael Romeo, great technique and neo classical passages. He's more power metal, but definitely more versatile than your typical power metal guitarist (he uses modes a lot, and, well, odd times, etc). And he has great feeling and fits so good dueling with the keys.
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Posted: December 23 2007 at 23:48 |
Nuke wrote:
hmm, best in skill? Nah, I won't answer that. Best musician, how about?
I like adam jones. He is a real perfectionist, and is very creative. Petrucci? Ok, he lacks soul. Like, take his fan favorite, the solo on under a glass moon. He convulses between emotions so much, he seems schizophrenic. You know he's not feeling every single emotion in that solo, that'd be impossible. Now robert fripp, is he really a prog metal guitarist? I'm sorry, but no, he isn't. Otherwise he'd win handily. Hmm, fredrik thorendel. He is amazing. I could definitly go with him, even over adam jones. He has enormous talent, and equally enormous creativity. Schuldiner? Maybe, but I still like fredrik better. Now, paul masvidal, from cynic, is probably just as skilled as petrucci. He seems to have a bit more emotion, and I love his neckless guitar. I guess I have to go with Fredrik Thorendal, but it is close for sure. |
A neckless guitar ay?
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ProgBagel
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Posted: December 23 2007 at 23:47 |
The chap from Behold...the Arctopus. I can never remember his name. Paul Misvada from Cynic is a runner-up.
Petrucci is always a candidate...it's undeniable how great the man is. What really seperates him from the rest is the picking precision...it comes out so natural and he should mess up more. Each one is tasteful besides the new stuff, he's a great player.
Adam Jones is not so great. To me, anyone that has a good sense of pitch can pick up the guitar and hit the right notes that are fitting to a song. His licks also get more rehashed then any other guitarist.
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Posted: December 23 2007 at 21:57 |
Greg Massi
Tasteful compositions, jazzy parts, bluesy solos, crazy as hell shredding solos, old-school death metal riffs, this guy has it all.
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Posted: December 22 2007 at 01:08 |
Petrucci? nah
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Posted: December 21 2007 at 00:06 |
BroSpence wrote:
polyrythmic wrote:
I will go with Adam Jones of Tool. |
I second that!
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Not Flashy, very subtle... he is the creator of post metal guitar playing, and Tool is not even a post metal band. Excellent guitar player, he gets my vote.
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Posted: December 19 2007 at 12:29 |
When he lived, Piggy from Voivod was the king. Now, that title goes to Mikael Akerfeldt from Opeth. Diverse, creative, tasteful, skilled and an AMAZING songwriter.
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Posted: December 19 2007 at 12:27 |
hmm, best in skill? Nah, I won't answer that. Best musician, how about?
I like adam jones. He is a real perfectionist, and is very creative. Petrucci? Ok, he lacks soul. Like, take his fan favorite, the solo on under a glass moon. He convulses between emotions so much, he seems schizophrenic. You know he's not feeling every single emotion in that solo, that'd be impossible. Now robert fripp, is he really a prog metal guitarist? I'm sorry, but no, he isn't. Otherwise he'd win handily. Hmm, fredrik thorendel. He is amazing. I could definitly go with him, even over adam jones. He has enormous talent, and equally enormous creativity. Schuldiner? Maybe, but I still like fredrik better. Now, paul masvidal, from cynic, is probably just as skilled as petrucci. He seems to have a bit more emotion, and I love his neckless guitar. I guess I have to go with Fredrik Thorendal, but it is close for sure.
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