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    Posted: March 14 2007 at 16:52
1. Official and unofficial websites -- I didn't check other groups/artists, but it may happen that there are other examples of such a situation where an unofficial website may be more informative than the official one. Hence the suggestion: to make this practice as a norm -- to put the official website into its template (the third line, after the genre and the country lines), and unofficial one(s) -- within the discography.
 
2. Bavarian language/dialect -- honestly, I can live with words "Bavarian language" since I didn't write those lines. But it is not the language, and even the separation of Bavaria from Germany wouldn't mean it's a language, because, for example, Austria is an independent country yet its language is still called German, not Austrian We don't even have American language, with all its difference as opposed to English.
From the scientific point of view, I can't be neutral -- it's a dialect. But, once again, I don't care too much for the lines in the band's bio in question.
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Points: 17627 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 13 2007 at 15:29
Originally posted by Fassbinder Fassbinder wrote:

What about such a change: "...rock music sung in Bavarian dialect of the German language" or "...rock music sung in Bavarian dialect of German"? Just a suggestion...

No problem for me - but it ist not neutral refering to the discussion whether Bavarian is a language or a dialect ...

Originally posted by Joolz Joolz wrote:


The site guidelines are as follows:

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We recognise that many bands do not have official websites as such. The site linked to should therefore be identified in the following order:

  • Where a band has an official site, we link to it

Otherwise, the link should point to a band related site in this order

  • The best unofficial site
  • Any record label site relating to the band
  • Any other site with significant details of the band
  • No link
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It is unequivocal - where a band has an official site we link to it.

The grey area comes further down .... "Any other site with significant details of the band" .... in my opinion, this should NOT include other music sites like PA which simply reiterate the information already available in PA, eg Proggnosis, Gnosis, NGER, DPRP etc.

It goes without saying that vendors should not be included,  but the problem there is that some record labels are also vendors (eg Musea).



Thanks - Joolz - for this information ...  Thumbs%20Up


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Points: 1377 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 13 2007 at 10:53
I noticed this discussion and would like to make some general comments:

The site guidelines are as follows:

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We recognise that many bands do not have official websites as such. The site linked to should therefore be identified in the following order:

  • Where a band has an official site, we link to it

Otherwise, the link should point to a band related site in this order

  • The best unofficial site
  • Any record label site relating to the band
  • Any other site with significant details of the band
  • No link
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

It is unequivocal - where a band has an official site we link to it.

The grey area comes further down .... "Any other site with significant details of the band" .... in my opinion, this should NOT include other music sites like PA which simply reiterate the information already available in PA, eg Proggnosis, Gnosis, NGER, DPRP etc.

It goes without saying that vendors should not be included,  but the problem there is that some record labels are also vendors (eg Musea).
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Points: 3497 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 12 2007 at 20:43
Well, Uwe...
 
I tend to disagree about the site placed as official one. I mean, I don't deny the fact this: http://www.sparifankal.de/ is the official one, not at all, but, admit, it is not informative.
 
However...
the link is updated...
the "geocities" site is added to the bio...
two previous sites from the bio are deleted (but there's always an option to restore them via this thread...)...
 
What about such a change: "...rock music sung in Bavarian dialect of the German language" or "...rock music sung in Bavarian dialect of German"? Just a suggestion...
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Points: 17627 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 12 2007 at 16:09
Hi Fassbinder

What about our Bavarian language yodeling band Sparifankal??


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Points: 17627 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 06 2007 at 07:31
The site policy is to offer the official website link (if there is one given).
So it must be http://www.sparifankal.de

There are existing different views about the Bavarian. To maintain a language or dialect can have either progressive or reactionary reasons.
If Bavaria would be a separate state I would admit it as a unique language.
But working for PA this is not our decision - so we have to find a way to write it neutrally.

We can change the last line of chapter 1 to  music sung in Bavarian dialect/language.

http://www.geocities.com/krautrockgroup/Sparifankal.html should be added instead of the two existing links in the bio

My suggestion: Alpinyodelrock has to be a new subgenre Big%20smileClap


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Points: 3497 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 06 2007 at 05:51
I've changed the link.
 
This site, however, speaks itself about "Bavarian language"... Shocked
 
Please, point out what exactly should be added/changed/removed -- then it'll be done...
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Points: 17627 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 06 2007 at 05:13
Have detected former Martin Pruckner Site
http://www.geocities.com/krautrockgroup

Sparifankal contains a lot more informations.
This should be updated in the bio ...


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Points: 17627 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 06 2007 at 04:09
Originally posted by Fassbinder Fassbinder wrote:


Yes - very sad - I don't know yet where this interesting site from Martin Pruckner is shifted Dead Maybe he is updating - I hope to find another source ...
Originally posted by Fassbinder Fassbinder wrote:

The bio offers also this one: http://rateyourmusic.com/artist/sparifankal . Is this useful?
No - only a few informations - rateyourmusic is not very secure ...
Originally posted by Fassbinder Fassbinder wrote:

And, what about some last words of the first paragraph: "...rock music sung in Bavarian language..."? I'd say "a dialect"... Ah, Uwe? What do you say?

Maybe some people are convinced Bavarian is a unique language. There are also some people who want to separate Bavaria from Germany. LOL
But it is a dialect as you say ...





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Points: 3497 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2007 at 18:34
Thanks, Uwe!
 
The new link is added. For a while... Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to be very informative... Unhappy...
 
 
The bio offers also this one: http://rateyourmusic.com/artist/sparifankal . Is this useful?
 
And, what about some last words of the first paragraph: "...rock music sung in Bavarian language..."? I'd say "a dialect"... Ah, Uwe? What do you say?


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Points: 17627 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2007 at 17:31
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