Prog Punk???Ermm

BaldFriede wrote: MadcapLaughs84 wrote: This are two different genres, Punk was Prog destroyer in 70s. I don't think it should be considered for an inclusion Sadly the destroyer of Prog was Prog itself and not Punk. Prog had become self-indulgent; Punk provided a well-needed ass-kick for Prog.

I second that. And I love Cardiacs.

I think that original RIO band Etron Fou Leloublan was fairly close to "prog-punk;" often the arrangement was of powerchords played loudly by the bassist, who would shout (in a rather punk-like manner) the vocals, while the saxaphonist (a new one every week!) would squeek away, and the drummer would play very, very strange beats underneath.  It really does sound like a punk band crossed Henry Cow or a similar group. 


Edited by rileydog22 - February 16 2007 at 01:12

i think prog-punk isn't impossible.
take for example ruins, it's not punk, but sometimes it's much punkish

Prog can be anything.

And of course there can be folk punk (is there another name for it), or punk with other spices..

I don't consider punk so small genre, or death of progressive music

Chus wrote: FragileDT wrote: Punk is just aggressive and fast music. The mars volta are clearly prog punk. De-loused is 100% prog punk, in fact the punk tendencies are by far the strongest on that album. Songs like Inertiatic ESP are pretty much straight forward punk with the exception of the end. It's funny how that is their most liked album when its clearly the most punk and least prog out of their 3. Some American bands like thrice and rx bandits could also be considered prog punk.    Punk consists of 3 chords and fast backbeat.. sometimes fore... but I don't see an oxymoron in "prog-punk".. just not likely for me to take notice from it

This statement is just flat out wrong. Punk may have started with few chords, but some of the biggest punk bands of the recent years write songs in many, many chords. Take NOFX as the biggest example. They are the modern definition of punk (or a good punk band) and don't always use conventional chords, rarely just 3 or 4 too. They use a lot of 7ths and 9ths, jazz chords and all that.

Listen to the song "One Million Miles an Hour, Fast Asleep" by the RX Bandits. Better yet, RX Bandits LIVE- Only for the night

Rx Bandits "single" (self produced distributed and recorded on their own label, if you consider that a single) ...And the Battle Begun

If RX bandits aren't prog/punk/reggae than I don't know what is.

Coheed and Cambria comes right to mind. Not exactly punk though

Snowdog - do you realise what is one of the most popular threads on PA: Tangents (which I regret to say I was the initiator)? I'll admit I do it myself - sometimes- but too often follow-up correspondence is so off beam, I wonder if only the thread title has been read, but none of the subsequent reponses (and clearly the longer the thread progresses, the likelyhood of reading all  there is lessened). Currently trying come up witha really ambiguous thread title, which might attract the worse sorts of off-tangentness - with a body craving from a proper meal the best in 3 minutes of tired thinking: Yes, was Banks the genesis of early prog?

Jimbo wrote: How about bands such as This Heat and Massacre? I think the term prog-punk sounds entirely reasonable when describing these groups.

Agreed!

Dick Heath wrote: BTW back to my original question at the start of this thread: does anybody know the Noisettes' music, (the best my daughter will say is "they're good!" but hasn't anything to listen to), to consider this claim of prog-punk?

does that make motorhead, along with all black or power metal, punk?

punk's an ethos

BaldFriede wrote: MadcapLaughs84 wrote: This are two different genres, Punk was Prog destroyer in 70s. I don't think it should be considered for an inclusion Sadly the destroyer of Prog was Prog itself and not Punk. Prog had become self-indulgent; Punk provided a well-needed ass-kick for Prog.

I would support you BF on that.

BTW back to my original question at the start of this thread: does anybody know the Noisettes' music, (the best my daughter will say is "they're good!" but hasn't anything to listen to), to consider this claim of prog-punk?


Edited by Dick Heath - February 02 2007 at 13:20