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    Posted: January 04 2007 at 16:41
There's an interesting fussion band from Buffalo, NY named Gamalon. They have two lead guitars, one is a female guitarist. I'm not really familiar with their stuff, just saw a few clips with their live performance.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-668501113595937334&q=gamalon&hl=en
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2007 at 15:21
Try the Terje Rypdal albums with the Chasers (Blue, Chaser, etc)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2007 at 15:17
Originally posted by dwill123 dwill123 wrote:

Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:



Originally posted by dwill123 dwill123 wrote:

    Michal Urbaniak jazz\fusion violinist. Very unique from most and has a little more edge than most.
Michal Urbaniak's  Urbanator, with two albums on the Hip Bop Records label released late 90's with some well known guests, is an interesting take on jazz funk/dance.

    I actually have not heard to much of his later (90s) material. I was talking more of his 70s stuff like his album "Fusion" which came out during the hieght of the fusion run around 1974.





I guessed you were........................ Urbanator and Urbanator 2 are worth checking out to hear where he's got to now. BTW RTF's Lenny White has recorded for the same label through the 90's - Edge  is most excellent. Makes me wonder why White has got together with Larry Coryell and Victor Bailey to produce a couple of lacklustre jazz fusion albums most recently.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2007 at 12:10
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:



Originally posted by dwill123 dwill123 wrote:

    Michal Urbaniak jazz\fusion violinist. Very unique from most and has a little more edge than most.
Michal Urbaniak's  Urbanator, with two albums on the Hip Bop Records label released late 90's with some well known guests, is an interesting take on jazz funk/dance.

    I actually have not heard to much of his later (90s) material. I was talking more of his 70s stuff like his album "Fusion" which came out during the hieght of the fusion run around 1974.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2007 at 07:30
Originally posted by dwill123 dwill123 wrote:

    Michal Urbaniak jazz\fusion violinist. Very unique from most and has a little more edge than most.


Michal Urbaniak's  Urbanator, with two albums on the Hip Bop Records label released late 90's with some well known guests, is an interesting take on jazz funk/dance.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2006 at 19:19
    Michal Urbaniak jazz\fusion violinist. Very unique from most and has a little more edge than most.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2006 at 10:32
Just discovered Garaj Mahal (word came from Danbo) - most  inyerface main stream jazz rock band I've heard for some time. Try their Live albums Volume 1 and 2
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2006 at 08:50
I know nothing about fusion, but if you want to expand into jazz-rock and canterbury then try and check out Moving Gelatine Plates.. the jazz is certainly present but they are psychedelic hard rock just as often. Their first two releases are on CDs as remasters.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2006 at 08:41
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Bozzio-Levin-Stevens "Black Light Syndrome" & "Situation Dangerous"


Definitely second-the-motion on Bozzio-Levin-Stevens, esp. BLS.  Also, second 'Romantic Warrior' by RTF - very awesome 'heavy' fusion material for you there....


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2006 at 06:25
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Originally posted by Kleynan Kleynan wrote:

So you've heard fusion Miles Davis then? Live-Evil is probably his heaviest. Bitches Brew is the best though.



Hey man, It's not THAT heavy. But yes I've heard Bitches Brew. Maybe I'll check out Live-Evil sometime
 
Live Evil is much heavier than Bitches Brew but some tracks go on a bit...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2006 at 19:05
Quiet Sun - Mainstream Big smile

Amazing album and very rocky for jazz rock/fusion.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2006 at 19:02
Soft Machine - Bundles
Nucleus - We'll Talk About it Later
Quiet Sun - Mainstream

And I second checking out Embryo ('Steig Aus' and 'Father, Son, and Holy Ghost' are both great).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2006 at 18:29
Originally posted by Howe Protege Howe Protege wrote:

Planet X


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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2006 at 17:07
I just want to state, as fact, that Conrad Schrenk Extravaganza is amazing.

Thanks everybody for posting!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2006 at 13:58
Liquid tension experiment 1 & 2
Bozzio-Levin-Stevens "Black Light Syndrome" & "Situation Dangerous"
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2006 at 09:25
I second Ohm, masterliness material right there.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2006 at 09:18
Originally posted by Howe Protege Howe Protege wrote:

Planet X


If you're talkin'bout X -

There's SONG X by Pat Metheny and Ornette Coleman, VERY hard hitting.

Also John Zorn's SPY vs. SPY!   
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2006 at 09:12

Niacin, excellent as they are, followed where Jonas Hellborg and the Johansson brothers had been : e  (hard Hammond dominated, bass heavy jazz rock fusion) and as the Shining Path with the death metal fusion of No Other World  (check out DEM/Bardo Records for both recordings). Hard brass rock/jazz rock fusion, (sorry to repeat myself but) said by many of those who have the record, is the best jazz rock of the 90's, Conrad Schrenk & Extravanganza's Save The Robots (check out Abstractlogix for this difficult to find but IMHO essential album). Located in the wrong place on the PA Electrocution 250 is jazz rock ultra-shred at 250 bpm.

Just remembered  I put myself (for in-car entertainment), an 80 minute burn of heavy  jazz fusion back in 2005 with the following track-listing, to provides some ideas of where to sample:

1.       Conrad Schrenk: 777 (ex. Save The Robots) - 666 and 888 are other interesting compositions/arrangement by guitarist Schrenk.
 
2.  Gongzilla: Image (ex. Thrive) - Gary Husband guesting on drums provides the heaviness

3.       Fire Merchants: Sybil (ex. Landlords Of Atlantis), Brand X side project(??) - example of what was called 'grunge jazz fusion' in the early 90's.

4.       Niacin: Swing Swang Swung (ex. Deep)

5.       Electrocution 250: Brainscrapper (ex. Electric Cartoon Music From Hell)

6.       The Shining Path: My Turn To Lose (ex. No Other World)

7.       Ohm: Searching For The Suicide King (ex. Ohm) - what do you expect with Chris Poland ex Megadeth as lead?

8.       Black Light Syndrome: Dark Corners (ex. BLS) - aka Bozzio Levin & Stevens

9.       David Fiuczynski: Shafta (ex. Black Cherry Acid Lab). Probably the most interesting  of the  younger American guitarist around. Also check out his band Scream Headless Torsos.

10.   Alkemy: Underwater (ex. Da 63 Project)

11.   Gambale, Hamm, Smith: Bad Intent (ex. Show Me What You Can Do) - Stu Hamm better known for collaborations with Vai and Satriani, flexing his fusion muscles in excellent company

12.   Shaun Baxter: Make It Reel (ex. Metal Jazz)
London-based music teacher, toured with Carl Palmer in 2003-ish.

13.   Heavy Metal Jazz Concepts: What Once Was (ex. Heavy Was A Sweater)

14.   Network: Looking Into Space (ex. LNC). Cobham drum technician (etc.)  Steve Clarke's Network with a strange hybrid of  jazz fusion and Scandanavian death metal - and Jan Hammer apparently playing keys!

15.  Jonas Hellborg Group: Dead (ex. Jonas Hellborg Group) - two and a half minutes of heavy fusion pleasure - trio of future Flower King's drummer plus two bass players (4 and 6 strings respectively).

Examples for the curious on Thursday nights radio show.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 09 2006 at 21:27
Planet X
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Planet X - 'Moonbabies'     absolutely spectacular progressive jazz metal
Colossueum II - 'Electric Savage'     tight and red-hot
Return to Forever - 'Romantic Warrior'     say no more
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