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Zargus
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Topic: Is this disturbing? Posted: April 14 2007 at 12:45 |
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OMG ! stop it my head hurts..
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Angelo
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Posted: April 12 2007 at 18:32 | |
Mr. Gerald Tuxon sure had some fun today!
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Padraic
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Posted: April 12 2007 at 17:31 | |
I'm an engineer, so my blood pressure skyrockets with this type of math ignorance in much the same way yours does with regards to spelling, grammar, and punctuation errors. |
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The Miracle
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Posted: April 12 2007 at 17:17 | |
That's hilariously pathetic. |
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tuxon
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Posted: April 12 2007 at 17:12 | |
thanks for your time and patience.
now back to those mellotrons eh. |
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Peter
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Posted: April 12 2007 at 16:59 | |
(Forgive me if I took a joke seriously. I used to see those kinds of backwards errors all of the time in the classroom -- multiplication done in place of division, & vice-versa.)
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tuxon
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Posted: April 12 2007 at 16:59 | |
0 % is not a very good score, however it leaves room for improvement. which a 100% score doesn't leave.
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Peter
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Posted: April 12 2007 at 16:56 | |
And getting 0% on your decimals test!
(I used to teach that stuff.)
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tuxon
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Posted: April 12 2007 at 16:56 | |
It is a fun thread isn't it.
the disturbing part is that some people apparently think along those lines.
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Padraic
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Posted: April 12 2007 at 16:52 | |
Boy, you got me good - I was really starting to freak out! |
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tuxon
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Posted: April 12 2007 at 16:46 | |
But if I divide 100 cents by 100 I would only be left with 1 cent, which is why i hate to pay taxes.
just trolling naturally science.
practicing odd logic. Edited by tuxon - April 12 2007 at 16:51 |
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Peter
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Posted: April 12 2007 at 16:40 | |
Sorry. When converting dollars to cents, you MULTIPLY by 100, not divide by 100.
1 (dollar) X 100 = 100 (cents)
(Using your erroneous division method to convert from dollars to cents: $100 divided by 100 = 1. Thus one hundred dollars would be worth one cent.)
Again -- NO. You have it backwards, my friend.
When converting cents to dollars you divide by 100, not multiply.
100 cents divided by 100 = 1, that is to say, $1.
(If you multiplied by 100, then 1 cent would be worth 100 dollars!)
Thus .002 cents = .00002 dollars (Obviously, you have less dollars than you have cents, and as you must know, the more zeros there are after the decimal, the smaller the number is.)
(I think you know this. I see it in some of your calculations, which are correct -- it's just the way you are expressing it backwards in words, or confusing the word "division" with "multiplication.") Edited by Peter Rideout - April 12 2007 at 16:52 |
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Padraic
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Posted: April 12 2007 at 16:40 | |
Are you actually serious about this, or are you just trolling me to get my blood pressure up?
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Padraic
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Posted: April 12 2007 at 16:38 | |
Why the extra multiplication by 100?
Dimensional analysis: dollars per kilobyte multiplied by kilobytes gives you dollars. That's it - that's the answer 0,71 dollars. |
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tuxon
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Posted: April 12 2007 at 16:36 | |
0.00002 dollars/kb times 35500 kb/s = 0,710 dollar times 100 + 10% tax is 710 dollar.
I love calculating.
Edited by tuxon - April 12 2007 at 16:42 |
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Padraic
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Posted: April 12 2007 at 16:33 | |
Right, now multiply 0.00002 dollars/kilobyte by 35500 kilobyte, and what do you get?
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tuxon
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Posted: April 12 2007 at 16:31 | |
Yes, now you understand it.
bills are always in dollars, i never receive a bill in cents, so they have to use the conversion table for translating the cents into dollars.
if you have 1 dollar that would mean you also have 100 cents, which is 100 times as much, so when transferring dollars to cents you have to multiply with a hundred as you see happening in the table you produced.
It's not that hard once yhou got the hang of it.
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Padraic
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Posted: April 12 2007 at 16:26 | |
You've got a future at Verizon!
100 cents = 1 dollar 10 cents = 0.1 dollar 1 cents = 0.01 dollar 0.1 cents = 0.001 dollar 0.01 cents = 0.0001 dollar 0.002 cent = 0.00002 dollars Note: If you agree with my first equation, all subsequent equations are simply dividing both sides by 10 (except the last one which divides by 5). Edited by NaturalScience - April 12 2007 at 16:28 |
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tuxon
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Posted: April 12 2007 at 16:19 | |
Yes, but how many cents do you need to make a dollar?
correct 100, so when calculating from cents to dollars you have to multiply by 100, else i would be a millionaire. I only have 100.000 cents aproximatly, thats 1000 dollars and not 10 million dollars.
so if it costs 0.002 cents, than when you calculate from dollars you must use 0.002 times 100 equals 0.2 dollar/kb times 35500 kbites makes 710 dollar and not 71 dollar.
Maybe they ment 0.002cents/Kb instead of kb (which is a 1000 times as much) than it would work, so i think that's what went wrong, there is a difference of 1000 times in the kbites transformation, which would result in a bill of 71 dollar (because of aprox 10% tax, which is one tenth of 100, so it has to be divided by 10 to corrct for that).
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Padraic
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Posted: April 12 2007 at 16:09 | |
The italicized portion is wonderfully ironic considering the story. 0.002 cents does not equal 0.2 dollars. 0.2 dollars is 20 cents. What had happened was he was quoted a rate of 0.002 cents/kB ($0.00002/kB), and transmitted about 35500 kB, therefore what he should have paid was $0.71 ($0.00002*35500). However, I think Verizon misread to him what the actual rate is, which is 0.002 dollars/kB, and claimed he should have owed about $71. It was clear from the phone call that they indeed quoted him the former rate, that these people are horribly bad at math and only do what "the computer" tells them to do. Edited by NaturalScience - April 12 2007 at 16:13 |
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