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    Posted: February 13 2007 at 11:48
I don't think I can go heavier than Opeth, I'm not a big fan of death metal, and they're borderline.  Of course, they're still good, from what I've listened to.
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Behemoth and Decapitated.
 
 
 
 
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Hmm, Opeth is actually pretty light for me so maybe something heavier that that is how heavy I can go.
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Dream Theater, Riverside, and Pain Of Salvation are the only prog metal bands I listen to. PoS sometimes go beyond my metal limits, however.

I've tried Opeth and they may not be for me.

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Maybe Opeth, or, to a bigger category, System Of A Down.. Thumbs%20Up

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I don't actually listen to all that much heavy music, but when I do I like it to be intense and preferably weird.  In fact it is easy to list pretty much all the heavy stufff I ever listen to: Celtic Frost, Mastodon, Ephel Duath, Voivod (Nothingface period), early Metallica, Dillinger Escape Plan, Psyopus, Ion Dissonance and Flying Luttenbachers.  Also from the old school, occasionally some Motorhead and Sabbath. 
 
Of all the above, for me early Celtic Frost (Morbid Tales period) is probably the heaviest.  Not the fastest or necessarily the most brutal, just heavy.
 
If anyone has recommendations to make based on the above preferences I'd like to hear them.  I mean to check out Meshuggah as they sound interesting and possibly my kind of thing, but haven't done so yet.
 
 
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Carmen's last album "The Gypsies" is for me one of the first "power metal" albums
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For me its probably Dream Theater ^_^
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The heaviest music I like.......

Well, I listen to Mastodon, and I really, really, really enjoy them(at least Blood Mountain! only Mastodon album I have)

But if you wanna know the heaviest/hardest music I can stomach.... I've been listening some to Meshuggah lately, and I must say, although "I" is VERY heavy compared to what I usually listen to, I find it quite interesting. I'm currently 'getting in to' Meshuggah, and I suspect I'll enjoy them more and more as time goes by.
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Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

Originally posted by Visitor13 Visitor13 wrote:

Are we talking about heavy or about, for want of a better word, brutal? If it's the latter, then I have no limits, although I rarely listen to death metal or grindcore nowadays.
 

If it's the former, well, I like Sunn 0))), Burning Witch, Thergothon etc. And is anyone here familiar with Brian 'Lustmord' Williams? Here's what I found out about him:

 

Lustmord's sound investigations are exquisitely crafted manifestations of horror that balance sublime sound references with the body's natural queasiness about ultra-low frequencies (infrasound -- frequencies below 20 hz -- has been known to cause vomiting, permanent hearing loss, and even death).

 

Now that must be heavy. Does anyone here know how often he goes for infrasound on his albums? 

 

Even the largest and most capable domestic speakers won't really reproduce anything below 20Hz (and for purposes of  musical reproduction, there's no need to do so).  So as far as being able to experience "infrasound" at home from CDs or other media is concerned, I think we're dealing with hype really.  Of course Lustmord may be able to do something like this live with the right equipment, which I imagine would be an uncomortable experience. 


Thanks for clarifying this. I mean to check this guy's music thoroughly, and I was a little worried about this "infrasound".
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Heavy is a state of mind, it really has little to do with riffs or growls.  It's about concentrating energy.  King Crimson is a lot 'heavier' than many metal bands.  Hell, Johnny Cash was heavy.  I wish I could explain it better, but I think maybe you get the point?
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I am still not "into" the cookie monster growls, no matter if the band is considered "prog" whatever. THe heaviest bands that I have in my collection are Pantera & Phil Anselmo's side project - Down. I consider System of a Down heavy, but with more twists than other "metal" groups; although it has become a pattern. I do agree that among the usual progressive rock groups, King Crimson is the heaviest, with Rush being able to outriff if they wanted to. Unfortunately, for this to happen we would need to find a time machine & send Neil, Geddy & Alex back to 1978 ...
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Originally posted by GoldenSpiral GoldenSpiral wrote:

How heavy can you make it?
 
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How heavy can you make it?
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You know, heavy and "heavy: are different things; Cannibal Corpse is "heavy", which means its brutal, gory, wild, noisy, an assault to ears and mind. "The thing that should not be", by Metallica, in MASTER OF PUPPETS, now that's heavy: heavier than that riff is difficult to get. Sad but True is another example of a heavy, stomping riff. And really, Black Sabbath was the source of so many heavy riffs and music.... so sometimes noise and violence could be confused with heavyness. So I rephrase what I said earlier: the most violent music I can take os Messhugah, the most noisy some grindocre and death, the most heavy, bring whatever you want, as long as it's good. Evil%20Smile
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I enjoy melodic black metal, death metal, thrash metal, speed metal, power metal, etc...
But when it comes to that style called Grindcore, that's just too much for me...
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Originally posted by Visitor13 Visitor13 wrote:

Are we talking about heavy or about, for want of a better word, brutal? If it's the latter, then I have no limits, although I rarely listen to death metal or grindcore nowadays.
 
If it's the former, well, I like Sunn 0))), Burning Witch, Thergothon etc. And is anyone here familiar with Brian 'Lustmord' Williams? Here's what I found out about him:
 
Lustmord's sound investigations are exquisitely crafted manifestations of horror that balance sublime sound references with the body's natural queasiness about ultra-low frequencies (infrasound -- frequencies below 20 hz -- has been known to cause vomiting, permanent hearing loss, and even death).
 
Now that must be heavy. Does anyone here know how often he goes for infrasound on his albums? 
 
Even the largest and most capable domestic speakers won't really reproduce anything below 20Hz (and for purposes of  musical reproduction, there's no need to do so).  So as far as being able to experience "infrasound" at home from CDs or other media is concerned, I think we're dealing with hype really.  Of course Lustmord may be able to do something like this live with the right equipment, which I imagine would be an uncomortable experience. 


Edited by Mascodagama - January 31 2007 at 10:31
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Originally posted by laplace laplace wrote:

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by Philéas Philéas wrote:

Originally posted by laplace laplace wrote:

micky's right in that Bronzo are heavier than most black metal bands. you need bass to be heavy, and what black metal usually is, is HARSH. ;)

I like drone and funeral doom so there's no limit to my love of heaviness. but I can't stand the Flying Luttenbachers for very long because free jazz mixed with noise is too much for me - I like heavy but not harsh if that makes sense.


I agree that heavy and harsh are two entirely different things! It's good to finally see someone who shares this view.

Heaviness is no problem for me either, but I don't like overly harsh music.

I don't quite understand what you mean by "harsh". do you perhaps mean "dissonant"? if so, I disagree. heavy music without dissonance is like a barking dog without teeth


what I mean is sounds at a certain register... noise/power electronics ensembles enjoy making music based around metallic percussive sounds or blasts of pure white noise. black metal bands usually employ high, shrieking vocals that are often distorted and pair that with ringing guitar riffs played very high on the neck.. a lot of free jazz involves someone strangling a reed instrument to death. these sort of sounds are what I term harsh.

dissonance is a different thing, of which I enjoy a certain element of in my music - I'm a KC and chamber fan after all.

edit: my mistake, the free jazz skronk does fall under the definition of dissonance Embarrassed but I'm referring to the sheer noise value rather than the disjointed melody and lack of continuity.


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