should proto prog and prog related removal

Proto prog surely should not be removed and maybe prog related may stay as well.

Philéas wrote: One has to post his forum membership email address when writing a review. The admins could send the reviewer an email, explaining why the band(s) was removed. They could also include the original review(s) in the email. It isn't very hard to copy that text into an email.

bhikkhu wrote: This is an inclusive site. The fact that they are here makes us more of a complete database. It also shows that the scope of prog is not isolated. It's not just some weird little genre, existing on the fringe. Its influence can be felt throughout many other genres. Not having these categories would makes us less complete.

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stonebeard wrote: 1. Neither should nor will be removed 2. Neither is acknowledged as being part of progressive rock 3. The site is whatever the owners want it to be

I think this is all that needs to be said on the matter.

I agree with Easy Livin'.

I do believe there is scope for some kind of re-naming process, especially for prog-related.  The definition is a tad ambiguous.

You can't delete bands though once they're here.  People work hard writing reviews, many reviewers aren't posters on the forum (even though you have to be a member), so if you deleted swathes of bands, they may suddenly wonder why and where their reviews are.  Not everyone saves their reviews as Word files before either (I do, however).

I wouldn't even recommend removing those bands without reviews, because someone worked hard in getting them included in the first place.

True, many many bands inclusion I disagree with, but they're here to stay and there is little we can do.

Live with it people.

I do believe though, that a new initiative needs to be installed for future additions, particularly in the prog-related genre.  A lot of bands that seem not suitable for other genres, seem to be put here, is this just?

There needs to be some kind of prog-related specialist, or someone needs to work closer with this genre.

Let's start from the understanding that these categories are here because the site owners consider them to be an important part of the site.

philippe wrote: "only the prog related genre should be removed" : yes, it's boring like hell and totally pointless, pure confusion.

not to (necesarily) come in opposition with your opinion, monsieur Philippe, but I think that the related scene of progressive rock has its share of value. by the exact judgement you acknowledged over at proto-prog (though here very relative, whilst there in a definite way), I think the concept of prog-related is just about another interesting view upon influences, upon derived motifs, upon the diversity that "still stands-by", upon the imaginated connection and upon similar things. In other words, it's fine for me to see bands that have had the relation with prog/ have made the idea of prog a possibility/ have made an inclination towards the prog succint definition/ were at a point a prog's musicians or band / and so on to be motivated and mentioned as the related factor.

of course, controversy constantly (and recently) goes towards how related can you be and how expanded can we reach the domain. nonetheless, there are bands or musicians that are satisfyingly, if not great eligible artists, of the prog-related context.

progressive music isn't an intangible discipline in my opinion and this related factor shows an outside rim.

REMOVAL??? - NO DEFINITELY NOT- these sections contain bands which were  important influences in the development of prog, and enable you to see the whole picture!

"only the prog related genre should be removed" : yes, it's boring like hell and totally pointless, pure confusion.

Edited by philippe - October 29 2006 at 06:54

I think Proto Prog is quite important, but Prog Related has quite a few bands in which just shouldn't be here. Problem is, where will some of the Prog Related bands go which do deserve to be here? If we make another category for them, we'll eventually come round to a similar problem, and we can't chuck some out forever...