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DallasBryan
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Topic: ANYTHING HERE PROG! Posted: June 04 2005 at 03:30 |
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Swinton MCR
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Posted: January 14 2005 at 15:29 |
Steely \Dan JUST AINT PROGRESSIVE - END OF.....
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Velvetclown
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Posted: January 14 2005 at 14:46 |
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threefates
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Posted: January 14 2005 at 14:29 |
DallasBryan wrote:
of course it doesnt sound like some dranged lunatic lying on his bed in a 8x10 bungalow babbling out grevious non sensical rubbish. While violins squill and flutes toot around him in some drunken spent jig!
Or is some of this to amazing to your ears to qualify after being trapped for so long!!!
Give that ol' AMERICANA a hoot!!! and dump the backlog of all that POPPYCOCK!!! |
As an American... I think I'll stick with the poppycock, thank you...
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Reed Lover
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Posted: January 14 2005 at 14:00 |
Please Sir,me no understandee!
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Velvetclown
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Posted: January 14 2005 at 13:57 |
Nope, not a sausage !!!!!!!!!!!!
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Dick Heath
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Posted: January 14 2005 at 13:55 |
[QUOTE=DallasBryan]whats the difference in Ry Cooder playing spooky 1920s jazz electrified and english progressive folk rock groups playing spooky 1800s folk music electrified?
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A thought: Bob Dylan shocked the folk world by playing electric but wasn't labelled prog. [Fairport Convention following that pathway, raiding Cecil Sharpe's British Isles folk song book, playing electric have not been called prog - ditto Steeleye Span]. Strawbs becoming less folky and electric were/are prog. Tull losing some of the blues with personnel changes due to Abrahams' departure, shift from a blues to a a sort of folky prog band. Al Stewart shifted from folky (e.g. Bedsitter Chronicles - has this even been release don CD?) to AOR (eventually, Year Of the Cat), but not thought of, at least in any big way, as proggie. Seems to reinforce the idea that we are arbituary with our categorisations.
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DallasBryan
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Posted: January 14 2005 at 09:45 |
whats the difference in Ry Cooder playing spooky
1920s jazz electrified and english progressive folk
rock groups playing spooky 1800s folk music
electrified?
not prog I agree but good stuff to build a foundation
around.
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Azrael2112
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Posted: January 14 2005 at 08:13 |
I can't really see Pretty Hate Machine being prog. But I have mentioned
before that nin's The downward spiral and the fragile are prog IMO.
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Captain Fudge
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Posted: January 14 2005 at 08:03 |
Mmm...Steely Dan...
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Teenage sucks hard -- Emo sucks even harder
Epic. Simply epic.
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Dick Heath
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Posted: January 14 2005 at 05:27 |
How did Ry Cooder's Jazz get in - after being recommended to this album by a guitarist who indirectly replaced Cooder in the Magic band, I was surprised about its dated sound. It gives me the impression of a polite, late 20's tearoom group ensemble wanting to play Scott Joplin and not get too heavy with the new fangled 'jazz' - prog rock never entered my mind as a definition. Give me RC's Crossroad OST - but why was the Steve Vai blues battle omitted?????????
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Petra
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Posted: January 14 2005 at 05:12 |
Ive not heard any of those bands except Nine Inch Nails and although that album is pretty electronic I just can't see it as prog.
Now..NIN's Chris Vrenna's band 'Tweaker' which is less industrial and more electronic/synth is quite prog..
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Don't hate me
I'm not special like you
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Beau Heem
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Posted: January 14 2005 at 04:56 |
The one US Artist/Group I'd expect to see listed here on Progarchives is
Mike Keneally (& Beer for Dolphins)
Great music, definitely progressive.
got some extraordinary compositions, and IMO, the best lyrics ever...
"We live in a world
where every bot and girl
is taught to believe in a justifiable war"
but sorry, Dallas, I cannot call any those groups prog.
-Beau
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Blacksword
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Posted: January 14 2005 at 03:00 |
DallasBryan wrote:
of course it doesnt sound like some dranged lunatic lying on his bed in a 8x10 bungalow babbling out grevious non sensical rubbish. While violins squill and flutes toot around him in some drunken spent jig!
Or is some of this to amazing to your ears to qualify after being trapped for so long!!!
Give that ol' AMERICANA a hoot!!! and dump the backlog of all that POPPYCOCK!!! |
Thats a great description..
DB, you should be a music journalist
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Sweetnighter
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Posted: January 14 2005 at 00:26 |
i'm so tempted to put headhunters i think i will. Sly is such a crazy
piece of music, i love it.... and of course chameleon is classic as is
watermelon man! AWESOME ALBUM.
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Arioch
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Posted: January 14 2005 at 00:22 |
DallasBryan wrote:
of course it doesnt sound like some dranged lunatic lying on his bed in a 8x10 bungalow babbling out grevious non sensical rubbish. While violins squill and flutes toot around him in some drunken spent jig! |
...that's what English progressive is to you, eh DB?
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DallasBryan
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Posted: January 14 2005 at 00:16 |
of course it doesnt sound like some dranged lunatic
lying on his bed in a 8x10 bungalow babbling out
grevious non sensical rubbish. While violins squill
and flutes toot around him in some drunken spent
jig!
Or is some of this to amazing to your ears to qualify
after being trapped for so long!!!
Give that ol' AMERICANA a hoot!!! and dump the
backlog of all that POPPYCOCK!!!
Edited by DallasBryan
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