Hogarth singing Fish songs

Rupert,

It's good with me. Certif1ed does sound like he's got a deep background with this. I also could be confusing having a 'better singing voice' with being 'technically better' (although, after listening to The Thieving Magpie yesterday, I still find it hard to believe). At this point, I don't really concern myself with it. It's not like I'm going to put all of my Hogarth era discs up on ebay if Fish is technically better.

E

iTunes: "Home" from Dream Theater's Scenes From A Memory
    

Edited by E-Dub - October 04 2006 at 17:58

E-Dub wrote: <<God is the wisest>> EXCELLENT point, Rupert. I was speaking more of an earthly sense, but you have to give that title to the Creator. <<I really came to like you, E-Dub>> I hope you meant that in the present tense, Rupi.   As far as I'm a relict of the past ( a relict quite noone can remember haha ) it can't be meant in present tense. For BJH-fans like me it's "Forever Yesterday"... but seriously, it's opresent tense ( what else ? ) I believe this list is essentially comprised of good people--regardless of whether or not we agree on certain issues. E

E-Dub wrote: <<A bad comedian laughs at his own jokes... it's a well-known fact. >> We all laugh at ourselves. As being someone (you consider) so intellectually above me, I'd expect you to know that.

You cannot expect me to know things - we know what we know and that's that - I would have thought that obvious.

I'm not sure why you're trying to disprove that comedian statement so hard, except as an attempt to claw back a little credibility that you feel you've lost.

Are you actually a comedian then?

Are you saying that I should take nothing you say seriously?

In case you were unaware, it's an urban myth - and that was a joke...

The point about intellectual superiority is your implication, not my consideration - but you seem intent on underscoring it!

E-Dub wrote: <<I was pulling your leg about you having to get your wife to fight your battles for you against someone you consider to be intellectually superior>> Watch out. Those claiming to be 'intellectuals' have turned out to be some of the most painfully moronic people I've ever met. It's the humbled common man that I've always found to be the wisest.

Interesting - I've often found that the "humbled common man" is a figment of the imagination of lower-grade intellectual types - who do indeed tend to be the most painfully moronic...

The wisest people I've met tend to be those at their creative peak, and not from any particular class.

E-Dub wrote: <<I have treated you with the respect you've treated me - you should respect that.>> Yeah, can't take the high road on this one. Probably should've harnessed the digits on this little exchange. Still, the 'bong' crack was pretty funny. C'mon, admit it!!

No - I've heard it before, and it wasn't funny then. You were saying that, because I hold a different opinion to you, for whatever reasons I have (and you didn't ask), that somehow I must be equated with someone who has consumed an unspecified quantity of narcotics - presumably with the implication that a person in such a condition is intellectually impaired to a very high degree.

What is funny about insulting someone that thinks differently to you?

E-Dub wrote: Simply put, you're the first person (and I do mean the FIRST person) that I've ever heard come out and say that this guy is technically better than that guy. Even those who clearly prefer Fish have admitted that Hogarth was probably the better singer, so you evidently possess some knowledge that's unbeknownst to me and a lot of other people. I'd bow down, but I'm late for the gym and I need to get into work early.

Maybe everyone else is too shy, or just doesn't have the technical background that I do?

E-Dub wrote: <<At least Peter understands where I'm coming from (re-inserted laughing emoticon - the sense is lost without it - if you remove it, then it looks like some sort of complaint!) >> Well, maybe if I knew you a bit better, I would've too. I believe this is our first exchange, however. Oh, and you've ended your sentence with a preposition, Professor.

I have never made claims to be an English Language Scholar.


BTW, on a much more interesting note, I heard Fish on a radio show at 2pm on Saturday, during which, in the space of half an hour (among other items on the show involving other guests), he managed to;

1. Sing a Scottish folk song a capella in an impressive basso profundo.
2. Speak in an almost perfect Cockney accent - although with less comic effect than Dick van Dyke, it has to be said.
3. Sing the Proclaimers' "Letter from America" in the style of Maurice Chevalier.
4. Improvise the lyrics from 4 further nursery rhymes into the verses of "Lavender".
5. Sing "Sweet Home Alabama" in a style that truly rivalled the original in terms of pure rock and roll punch and grit.


Not that I needed any further evidence of his technical superiority... Did anyone else hear this programme - or am I the only one here that ever listens to Radio 2 of a Saturday afternoon
     
    
    
    

    

Edited by Certif1ed - October 02 2006 at 04:01

E-Dub wrote: <<A bad comedian laughs at his own jokes... it's a well-known fact. >> We all laugh at ourselves. As being someone (you consider) so intellectually above me, I'd expect you to know that. We're poor if we can't... how can a "good" comedian find out what the hell the audience is laughing at if he doesn't find his own stuff funny ? He's cheating then ! <<I was pulling your leg about you having to get your wife to fight your battles for you against someone you consider to be intellectually superior>> Watch out. Those claiming to be 'intellectuals' have turned out to be some of the most painfully moronic people I've ever met. It's the humbled common man that I've always found to be the wisest. God is the wisest, we're all very strange, more or less, and artists / specialists are worst ever... <<I have treated you with the respect you've treated me - you should respect that.>> Yeah, can't take the high road on this one. Probably should've harnessed the digits on this little exchange. Still, the 'bong' crack was pretty funny. C'mon, admit it!!    Simply put, you're the first person (and I do mean the FIRST person) that I've ever heard come out and say that this guy is technically better than that guy. Even those who clearly prefer Fish have admitted that Hogarth was probably the better singer, so you evidently possess some knowledge that's unbeknownst to me and a lot of other people. I'd bow down, but I'm late for the gym and I need to get into work early. <<At least Peter understands where I'm coming from>> Well, maybe if I knew you a bit better, I would've too. I believe this is our first exchange, however. Oh, and you've ended your sentence with a preposition, Professor. I really came to like you, E-Dub !!! Rupi E

E-Dub wrote: <<and your wife and I will have to agree on what constitutes technique or the whole thing is a non-starter.>> Then prepare yourself because I don't call her "Little Miss Can't-Be-Wrong" for nothing.

I'm trembling already...

E-Dub wrote: <<but let me emphasise that I am not biased by taste in this>> I find that hard to believe.

I can tell.

E-Dub wrote: <<It'll be good to discuss it with someone who knows what they're talking about>> Let's not bother. Conversation took a nasty turn with the last comment; although, I'm sure my "bong hit" comment didn't help matters much, but it sure was funny!

A bad comedian laughs at his own jokes... it's a well-known fact.

And there was nothing nasty about the last comment - witness the little emoticon that informed you I was pulling your leg about you having to get your wife to fight your battles for you against someone you consider to be intellectually superior - for which compliment I thank you.
    

E-Dub wrote: <<please don't patronise me that way>> Oh sure because you've conducted yourself in a very respectful manner towards me.    E

I have treated you with the respect you've treated me - you should respect that.

But you really shouldn't accuse me of putting my taste before carefully researched facts until you know what those facts are - and since you haven't bothered asking, I've assumed you don't care.

Peter Rideout wrote: Certif1ed wrote:      Cool - I've also got some qualifications in music (in case you didn't know what the "Certif1ed" stood for).      And all this time I thought it stood for "Certified loony!"

At least Peter understands where I'm coming from
    

Edited by Certif1ed - September 28 2006 at 03:31

    

Hmmmm, or Kansas City BBQ!!

Your post wasn't done in anger! It was done in hunger!

E

E-Dub wrote: PR, I almost wonder if they replied to the wrong post. I didn't see anything wrong with it. As a matter of fact, it made my friggin' mouth water like Niagra Falls. E iTunes: "She Chameleon" from Fugazi

Could be, I guess.

Edited by Peter Rideout - September 27 2006 at 17:22

<<and your wife and I will have to agree on what constitutes technique or the whole thing is a non-starter.>>

Then prepare yourself because I don't call her "Little Miss Can't-Be-Wrong" for nothing.

<<but let me emphasise that I am not biased by taste in this>>

I find that hard to believe.

<<It'll be good to discuss it with someone who knows what they're talking about>>

Let's not bother. Conversation took a nasty turn with the last comment; although, I'm sure my "bong hit" comment didn't help matters much, but it sure was funny!

E
    

Edited by E-Dub - September 27 2006 at 19:29

PR,

I almost wonder if they replied to the wrong post. I didn't see anything wrong with it. As a matter of fact, it made my friggin' mouth water like Niagra Falls.

E

iTunes: "She Chameleon" from Fugazi

Hogarth Rocks, he can sing anything he wants