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Poll Question: Does very poor spelling, etc, make you look DUMB & worth ignoring?
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    Posted: October 19 2006 at 21:46
By the way, I would rate this as my favorite poll in this section of the archives so far.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 19 2006 at 21:46
Is this going to be on the test?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2006 at 15:59

i cannt sp3kk rihgtt!!1 n0t 3nghlis.... nEED SOMEBIDY TOO TUTOURE M3H!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2006 at 15:34
Originally posted by tardis tardis wrote:

My vote: Did you do lots of acid back in the day, sir?

LOL

Originally posted by Peter Rideout Peter Rideout wrote:


LOL Yeah, a kid actually asked me that in the middle of a class on Romeo and Juliet. He raised his hand, I thought "wow -- I've inspired one of them to ask a question!" and he asked that. I did not "dignify it with an answer." (Of course, they all took that as a "yes.")
 
All of those silly questions are real, & from my HS teaching days.Unhappy


I actually took 2 hits of acid before an English class once Wacko


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2006 at 15:29
Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Further to previous posts regarding spell checking systems, I thought I'd share this little nugget with you from the (relatively) early days of the computerised office:

One company I worked for had a computer system with an inbuilt spell-check facility for letter writing/note taking; this function was automatic, and led to our having to refrain from using one of our most common abbreviations - the word "customer" used to be shortened to "cust"... which the system automatically changed to a similar 4 letter word which was in its dictionary, and correct in the context of a sentence.

Although we may have agreed upon occasion with the 'corrected' word, we had to be damned careful at times


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2006 at 15:25
Originally posted by Visitor13 Visitor13 wrote:



Fair enough, but just thought I'd point out that looking stupid isn't the same as being stupid. And therefore very poor (or rather careless) spelling on Internet forums makes you look primarily inconsiderate of others, IMO. This is not the same as stupidity (although it can be just as harmful).


 Yes I know that, of course, but it was worth stressing. Thumbs Up  Note, though that I took care to say look stupid, not just "stupid." (When you translate my spelling, that is!)
 
"Inconsiderate?" Yes, perhaps that's better. How about "socially stupid" or "socially retarded?"
 
Before someone takes offense at that, "retarded" (without the accompanying "mentally") merely means "hindered" or "stunted." Geek
 
There are many types of intelligence. English skills would be pretty useless in an open boat on a stormy sea, or lost in the fog -- give me the illiterate, experienced fisherman at the helm every time!Smile
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2006 at 08:12
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Further to previous posts regarding spell checking systems, I thought I'd share this little nugget with you from the (relatively) early days of the computerised office:

One company I worked for had a computer system with an inbuilt spell-check facility for letter writing/note taking; this function was automatic, and led to our having to refrain from using one of our most common abbreviations - the word "customer" used to be shortened to "cust"... which the system automatically changed to a similar 4 letter word which was in its dictionary, and correct in the context of a sentence.

Although we may have agreed upon occasion with the 'corrected' word, we had to be damned careful at times


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2006 at 04:33
Originally posted by Peter Rideout Peter Rideout wrote:

^ Well, Yeats, Einstein and Christie would have had editors. (A human forerunner of spell check software.)
 
Branson I don't know -- Virgin Records? He'd have a secretary.

What does this change? But for those people they'd still look stupid because of their poor spelling. And as children they were perceived as stupid because of it.
 
Da Vinci? Hadn't heard that of him, perhaps so -- but I can't read medieval Italian.Wink

Neither can I, but there are people who can, and they say he had major problems with his spelling.
 
Anyway, the poll targets consistently "really poor spelling" (sic), and some particular posts I've read here from some seeming English speakers -- one in particular.
 
More than anything though, it's a cry for the simple use of spell check by those who post consistently garbled, near-unintelligible stuff here.
It's not targeting the average Joe or Jane, or any who weren't born into the language.

Fair enough, but just thought I'd point out that looking stupid isn't the same as being stupid. And therefore very poor (or rather careless) spelling on Internet forums makes you look primarily inconsiderate of others, IMO. This is not the same as stupidity (although it can be just as harmful).
 
Plus, it's meant to make you chuckle....Smile

And I did laugh... even though most of the options above should have made me cry.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 25 2006 at 19:31
I have a huge problem. Honestly, I can hardly stand any error, especially orthographical ones (of course, I'm speaking here about the native language use). But let us imagine the text full of "orthos" but still readable and understandable. In such cases I just fail to find arguments against those who say: "Hey, what do you want? Can you understand the text (or the message)? That's enough!!!" I'm "boiling" but the only sensible objection I can made is the aesthetical one... which is, obviously, not sufficient...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 25 2006 at 19:17
^ Well, Yeats, Einstein and Christie would have had editors. (A human forerunner of spell check software.)
 
Branson I don't know -- Virgin Records? He'd have a secretary.
 
Da Vinci? Hadn't heard that of him, perhaps so -- but I can't read medieval Italian.Wink
 
Anyway, the poll targets consistently "really poor spelling" (sic), and some particular posts I've read here from some seeming English speakers -- one in particular.
 
More than anything though, it's a cry for the simple use of spell check by those who post consistently garbled, near-unintelligible stuff here.
It's not targeting the average Joe or Jane, or any who weren't born into the language.
 
Plus, it's meant to make you chuckle....Smile


Edited by Peter Rideout - September 25 2006 at 19:19
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 25 2006 at 14:25
Poor spelling certainly made Yeats, Einstein, Da Vinci, Agatha Christie and Richard Branson look stupid. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 25 2006 at 09:04
Originally posted by tardis tardis wrote:

My vote: Did you do lots of acid back in the day, sir?

LOL
LOL Yeah, a kid actually asked me that in the middle of a class on Romeo and Juliet. He raised his hand, I thought "wow -- I've inspired one of them to ask a question!" and he asked that. I did not "dignify it with an answer." (Of course, they all took that as a "yes.")
 
All of those silly questions are real, & from my HS teaching days.Unhappy
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 25 2006 at 07:56
Further to previous posts regarding spell checking systems, I thought I'd share this little nugget with you from the (relatively) early days of the computerised office:

One company I worked for had a computer system with an inbuilt spell-check facility for letter writing/note taking; this function was automatic, and led to our having to refrain from using one of our most common abbreviations - the word "customer" used to be shortened to "cust"... which the system automatically changed to a similar 4 letter word which was in its dictionary, and correct in the context of a sentence.

Although we may have agreed upon occasion with the 'corrected' word, we had to be damned careful at times

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 25 2006 at 00:13
My vote: Did you do lots of acid back in the day, sir?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 25 2006 at 00:07
Originally posted by Peter Rideout Peter Rideout wrote:

 Pronunciation and meaning have changed, & are changing. It it spelling that is more fixed. There is no urgent "restructuring" needed -- language changes over time anyway.
  
 
I can see wizzy you mean so you betta run and grab yo glock. wittall tha lame new playa out, tha language may, sadly, be sum-m sum-m like...well, this.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 24 2006 at 21:35
Originally posted by condor condor wrote:

Convention for convention's sake restricts any progress or individuality. I only use this outdated, debased, organic grammar & spelling because it is the only system you know and can use. A debate amongst ordinary people and academics is vitally required to plan and restructure the English language. However, like most other important institutions, it will probably be left to the suffocating vagaries of tradition and its assorted outdated meaning.

Even if I wanted to spell correctly (in the real sense), our contemptible alphabet and keyboards do not allow me. And anyone who thinks English spelling is quaint or charming is the kind of person who thinks Chinese girls looked pretty with feet bound so tight they became gangrenous. Our current language is just one of many ways of communicating. Language's popularity has more to do with economic and military power than any intrinsic advantages.

Lastly, the dictionary may have been a regressive invention. It tried to set in stone what always changes: the pronunciation of words.
    
 
wel sed!  ^ th revolushun!
 
an u'd b suprizd wat i cn rd!
 
 Pronunciation and meaning have changed, & are changing. It it spelling that is more fixed. There is no urgent "restructuring" needed -- language changes over time anyway.
 
The word "knight" was formerly pronounced
"ki - nig - it," for example.
 
 
 Sorry if I suffocated you. Confused
 


Edited by Peter Rideout - September 24 2006 at 21:37
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 24 2006 at 12:24
Originally posted by Ghost Rider Ghost Rider wrote:

Originally posted by Peter Rideout Peter Rideout wrote:

 
This poll was written "to the moment," that is, as a response to some very bad spelling in posts by an individual with English as a first language. (To be more specific would perhaps be cruel.) The poll has nothing to do with the use of "big" words.
 
Obviously, if English is not your first language, then you will struggle more with English spelling and grammar than one born to the language would. This poll is NOT aimed at such people -- don't be so sensitive!
 
This is a joke poll (but with an underlying serious message).
 
 
BTW, if you think you sometimes struggle with English, you should hear me try to speak Walloon -- or even French!


My command of English spelling and grammar are probably better than many native speakers' (or at least so I have been told in the past - you can be a better judge than I am, Peter!Wink), but then I've put a lot of work into that. Moreover, there's something in my nature that makes me dislike sloppy spelling and grammar, even in my own language. I always correct myself when I type, and here I edit posts if I find I've made even a tiny mistake. Perhaps I'm a control freak, but that's the way I've always been.




 
Me too -- and an indication of how poor a typist I am is that few of my posts are without the "edited by Peter Rideout on...." at the bottom.Embarrassed
 
Being a perfectionist in this regard was obviously important to my success in university, and remains so for me as an English teacher.
 
I do think that the web (chat rooms, email, etc.) is eroding spelling and grammatical abilities, by the way.Geek
 
I have a Google tool-bar with spell check for when I write here on the forum (for my reviews, I use Word), and I generally use it. It's a free download.
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O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 24 2006 at 12:20
Convention for convention's sake restricts any progress or individuality. I only use this outdated, debased, organic grammar & spelling because it is the only system you know and can use. A debate amongst ordinary people and academics is vitally required to plan and restructure the English language. However, like most other important institutions, it will probably be left to the suffocating vagaries of tradition and its assorted outdated meaning.

Even if I wanted to spell correctly (in the real sense), our contemptible alphabet and keyboards do not allow me. And anyone who thinks English spelling is quaint or charming is the kind of person who thinks Chinese girls looked pretty with feet bound so tight they became gangrenous. Our current language is just one of many ways of communicating. Language's popularity has more to do with economic and military power than any intrinsic advantages.

Lastly, the dictionary may have been a regressive invention. It tried to set in stone what always changes: the pronunciation of words.
    

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 24 2006 at 11:51
Originally posted by Peter Rideout Peter Rideout wrote:

 
This poll was written "to the moment," that is, as a response to some very bad spelling in posts by an individual with English as a first language. (To be more specific would perhaps be cruel.) The poll has nothing to do with the use of "big" words.
 
Obviously, if English is not your first language, then you will struggle more with English spelling and grammar than one born to the language would. This poll is NOT aimed at such people -- don't be so sensitive!
 
This is a joke poll (but with an underlying serious message).
 
 
BTW, if you think you sometimes struggle with English, you should hear me try to speak Walloon -- or even French!


My command of English spelling and grammar are probably better than many native speakers' (or at least so I have been told in the past - you can be a better judge than I am, Peter!Wink), but then I've put a lot of work into that. Moreover, there's something in my nature that makes me dislike sloppy spelling and grammar, even in my own language. I always correct myself when I type, and here I edit posts if I find I've made even a tiny mistake. Perhaps I'm a control freak, but that's the way I've always been.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 24 2006 at 11:21
Originally posted by Falling Flower Falling Flower wrote:

I learned my English of crappy American soaps on television so you can't really expect me to write all sophisticated and spell every word correct, because I can't.
 
In school here we get 1 hour of English per week, and if I learned only that, I would now know how to give directions in English and not much more.
 
And I'm sure that there are more people like me, so does that make us stupid?
 
And I find myself rather smart actually, tho I may look stupid to you because I don't use big words and make spelling mistakes.
Sigh.
 
This poll was written "to the moment," that is, as a response to some very bad spelling in posts by an individual with English as a first language. (To be more specific would perhaps be cruel.) The poll has nothing to do with the use of "big" words.
 
Obviously, if English is not your first language, then you will struggle more with English spelling and grammar than one born to the language would. This poll is NOT aimed at such people -- don't be so sensitive!
 
This is a joke poll (but with an underlying serious message).
 
 
BTW, if you think you sometimes struggle with English, you should hear me try to speak Walloon -- or even French!


Edited by Peter Rideout - September 24 2006 at 11:24
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O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
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