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Jochem 
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 Topic: Difficult To Get Into Bands
Posted: September 14 2006 at 19:01 |
 Philéas wrote:
Another band I've been trying to get into lately is Pain of Salvation. However, I just can't get myself to like them... |
I have tried that band for like 20 times but I Just can't get into them as well. But they are so high rated everywhere that I just need to see why everybody likes that stuff.
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THE_POLE
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Posted: September 14 2006 at 18:59 |
Philéas wrote:
Another band I've been trying to get into lately is Pain
of Salvation. However, I just can't get myself to like them...
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Yea i started with remedy lane half a year ago. I just bought avery
single album theyve released about month ago, and i absolutly
love them. It takes a while for them to click tho.
I haven't heard gentle giant, but the second i heard 'Cygnus... Vismund
Cygnus', Frances The Mute became my favourite album and it is up there
to this day. I loved king crimson after about 3 listens to Red.
I found VDGG hard to get into but i like them now. Same goes for Yes.
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micky
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Posted: September 14 2006 at 18:16 |
Syzygy wrote:
eugene wrote:
All those on the list are perfectly OK with
me. What I can't get is most of Can, Faust, and some extremely
noisy experiments by Zorn |
Can and Faust clicked pretty much immediately for me, and most of
Zorn's material with the exception of the Classic Guide To Strategy.
The really difficult one for me (and I'm being serious here) is
Dream Theater - they're clearly very good musicians, but I just can't
get into them at all.
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I'd second that.. .and have honestly tried to get into them... or at least give them a fair listen...
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Philéas
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Posted: September 14 2006 at 16:25 |
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Another band I've been trying to get into lately is Pain of Salvation. However, I just can't get myself to like them...
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TheLamb
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Posted: September 14 2006 at 11:53 |
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Neither were "easy", for me! took me a few weeks to get into Mars Volta... even longer to truely appreciate and love King Crimson's dark-feeling songs... The hardest was Gentle Giant which seemed like Chaos to me for months, but now I'm glad to say King Crimson and Gentle Giant are both in my top 5 favorite bands... Mars Volta are outstanding too... Love em, just not "top 5 quality"
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eduardossc
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Posted: September 14 2006 at 07:33 |
I don't understand how some people find Gentle giant hard to get into. It was one of the very first prog bands I heard back some 16 years ago right after a whole teenager life of listening to pop. Gentle giant caught me from the very first notes of 1970's "Giant" track. Hasn't anyone noticed lots of their songs are pretty catchy and melodic?. How could they be hard to listen to?. I found much harder some Crimson songs. Specially from Lark's and Lizard, but still, I found them very accesible since they caught my attention for their interesting way of building notes and sounds in a very unnusual manner.
I've never heard Mars volta, I would appreciate someone told me which are their finnest and most original and inspired albums?.
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Asyte2c00
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Posted: September 13 2006 at 18:11 |
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Gnetle Giant, onece its "clicks" though, you will listen to them fro weeks onend, On vacation, listned to everything from Gentle Gaint to Interview about eight times. Its crazy. Fantastic Band.
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eugene
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Posted: September 13 2006 at 18:09 |
Syzygy wrote:
eugene wrote:
All those on the list are perfectly OK with me. What I can't get is most of Can, Faust, and some extremely noisy experiments by Zorn |
Can and Faust clicked pretty much immediately for me, and most of Zorn's material with the exception of the Classic Guide To Strategy.
The really difficult one for me (and I'm being serious here) is Dream Theater - they're clearly very good musicians, but I just can't get into them at all. The only related project I've enjoyed has been Transatlantic's second album, otherwise they just leave me cold. Likewise Symphony X and similar prog metal bands - although I do like Tool and Primus. |
Dream Theater can be annoying at times, but all in all they are not a bad band, as to Symphony X and the likes - I do not think there is much to get into, and same goes for Tool. This is not a matter of "difficult to get" it's just "I don't like it" thing. I started to suspect same thing about Can as well...but I still think Can efforts mean something to someone out there.
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Syzygy
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Posted: September 13 2006 at 14:04 |
eugene wrote:
All those on the list are perfectly OK with me. What I can't get is most of Can, Faust, and some extremely noisy experiments by Zorn |
Can and Faust clicked pretty much immediately for me, and most of Zorn's material with the exception of the Classic Guide To Strategy.
The really difficult one for me (and I'm being serious here) is Dream Theater - they're clearly very good musicians, but I just can't get into them at all. The only related project I've enjoyed has been Transatlantic's second album, otherwise they just leave me cold. Likewise Symphony X and similar prog metal bands - although I do like Tool and Primus.
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'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'
Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom
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eugene
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Posted: September 13 2006 at 13:54 |
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All those on the list are perfectly OK with me. What I can't get is most of Can, Faust, and some extremely noisy experiments by Zorn
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Sean Trane
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Posted: September 13 2006 at 11:35 |
Thinking Plague is definitely tough to get into.
Early Guapo and Don Caballero are real toughies too.
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
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Posted: September 13 2006 at 11:32 |
blbx93 wrote:
For TMV, Deloused in the Comatorium is an easy listen and amazing, while Amputechture is a much harder listen (five plus times really). Don't listen to Frances first. Just don't.
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Well, I actually listened to FtM first, and I quite liked it too.. but I suppose I'm a bit of an odd character!  However, I agree completely with you about "Deloused...", which is really a fantastic album (5 stars in my review of it).
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blbx93
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Posted: September 13 2006 at 11:24 |
Gentle Giant. The voice and the transitions are off the wall; I am adapting though.
For TMV, Deloused in the Comatorium is an easy listen and amazing, while Amputechture is a much harder listen (five plus times really). Don't listen to Frances first. Just don't.
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Philéas
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Posted: September 11 2006 at 04:37 |
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superprog: Yes, thats the way they like it, for some reason. But try to give it a couple more listens, when (if) you get it you will be rewarded!
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superprog
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Posted: September 11 2006 at 04:19 |
I find TMV pretty heavy-going in that the music is so dense and heavy.......i actually got a headache listening to Frances The Mute!!!
even with the few amibient passages i found it rather claustrophobic, with little breathing space for the listener. Maybe they like it this way.........
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Philéas
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Posted: September 11 2006 at 03:15 |
Seeing that this topic has been brought up again, I must add that VdGG was quite a challenge for me aswell as the bands I already mentioned. However, VdGG is probably my favourite of the classics now that I have gotten into them. Listening to "H to He, Who Am the Only One" at the moment. 
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The Whistler
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Posted: September 11 2006 at 02:07 |
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Whoah, wait, how hard are Gentle Giant to get into?
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"There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson
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Posted: September 11 2006 at 01:55 |
The stuff from "The Mars Volta" that i've heard is too damn difficult.
But otherwise, Captain Beefheart was quite a challenge, but now i love his music!
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Jochem
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Posted: September 10 2006 at 19:53 |
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I can see why people find it difficult to get into the Mars Volta but I loved them from the first listen. I just like everything about their music.
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Raff
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Posted: September 08 2006 at 02:48 |
micky wrote:
hmmm... easy answer..
The Mars Volta
if you think King Crimson and Gentle Giant are hard to get into... .you
need to go back to your DT albums and forget about
real prog rock... 
The Mars Volta... it's prog alright but the 'modern' nature of it makes
for not an easy listen at times. IMO of course, not to mention that
vocalist whatever the hell his name is... is an acquired taste
for me.
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The vocalist's name is Cedric Bixler-Zavala, and his voice might very well be an acquired taste for some. I happen to like him a lot (as a matter of fact, I'm listening to TMV just now...) and would choose him over LaBrie any day - but I understand he can be a bit hard to take for some. Of course I agree 100% about DT albums and such, but I don't think there is any need to stress the point... just in case people begin to fear me going on a rampage and closing all DT threads!
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